A challenger should never have to do more

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  1. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    damn right.

    boxing is scored by rounds not reputation.
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Boxing is scored by people not computers.

    It is actually impossible for people to completely remove themselves from their preconceptions, no matter how hard they try.

    Ideally, a bout should be scored completely neutrally regardless of location, previous records of fighters, etc. In reality, those things will have an effect.
     
  4. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the champion should get close rounds. Anything that you have to keep going over in your head should be awarded to the champ. If it's not yours, you have to take it. Or you can buy it.
     
  5. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ah, so Winky SHOULD have got the decision over Jermain Taylor, then?
     
  6. burzumboy

    burzumboy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Technically a challenger would have to do more to win otherwise it is a draw. poor question, poor thread. Dirrell lost by 2/3 points, deal with it.
     
  7. mightyd40

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    i literally just posted this in another thread....i agree with you. to me a fighter doesnt have to take a title, he has to win more rounds. and to win a fight in my opinion you have to win at least 7 rounds of a fight, champion/challenger/journeyman or bum off of the street.
     
  8. deal

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    I think the aggressor should get close rounds, belts are not worn in the ring and should play no part in decision. People don't want to watch people running away from each other / arm wrestling and boxing should be in the business of delivering what the fans want.
     
  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats true too
     
  10. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A true champion doesn't need "free points" to win a fight if he's a real champion.

    Also, how about guys who pick up cheap vacated belts (like Cotto's WBO belt). Does he deserve an advantage over his opponents just because he beat Mick Jennings? This whole "beating the champion" crap is just that -- crap.
     
  11. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    The challenger should have to shade the champ in terms of overall effort and effectiveness, aggressiveness etc. He's trying to take away something that another prizefighter has earned in previous fights, a championship belt. If a fight is back and forth and each put out more or the less the same effort I give the nod to the reigning champion.
     
  12. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing wrong with the thread, legitimate question. Technically? there's nothing technical about it, why should a challenger have to do more? simple question and I gave you a simple answer "No because the only thing that matters is the fight, not reputations or past achievements".

    If a round is too close to call, it should be called an even round, problem solved.

    Dirrel lost even though he outlanded Froch 2:1. He was helped by the judges, accept that.

    Now if its not too much for you, try and justify why a challenger should have to do more like I justified why a challender should not have to do more. Don't give me any "technically" BS, just logic.
     
  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I think the point you tried to respond to went completely over your head...

    Do you have a link for Dirrell outlanding Froch 2:1 btw? My understanding was that there were no stats collated...
     
  14. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can box on the back foot and still be effective. Anyways it's hard nowadays with so many belts and guys jumping weights...... I guess that's why they have three judges not 1 cause everyone has styles they like and the way they feel rounds should be awarded.
     
  15. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are no stats currently and Froch will probably be embarassed if and when they get released. The general feeling on this site (including the Brit forum) seems to be that Dirrel won the fight by easily outlanding his opponent. And If stats were available, my guess would be that Dirrel landed almost twice as much.