A challenger should never have to do more

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ero-sennin, Oct 18, 2009.


  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Don't state it as a fact then if it's just a number that you pulled out of your arse.
     
  2. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    i think the close rounds should be scored 10-10 and let the decision got to the fighter who wins the championship rounds
     
  3. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay fair enough, but even the nuthuggers who claim Froch won will admit he landed way less. 2:1 may be wrong or it may be right, argue about the exact figures if you want to, if and when the stats get released and I'm wrong I can admit it but Dirrell clearly made Froch look very poor, hence the 1000+ (another number I pulled out of my arse) "robbery" threads that have popped up on the forum since last night, and the numerous polls showing opinion in Dirrell's favour.
     
  4. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    You don't win by the sum of all rounds combined(landingwise), but by round by round.

    This isn't amateur boxing.
     
  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    There's a lot of validity to this point. All of these cries of robbery come from situations where people feel obliged to give a round one way or the other in rounds where neither fighter has done anything except hold, whinge and miss with a few punches.

    10-10 should be the default score for a round until one of the fighters demonstrates clearly that they deserve to win that round. If neither do, forget about it and move onto the next.
     
  6. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Generally when a boxer has outlanded his opponent by so much, it is accumulated over many rounds rather than one or two unbelievably great rounds, hence, that boxer still wins more rounds and therefore should get the win if scoring is fair.
     
  7. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    precisely..
     
  8. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :-(
     
  9. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's really not enough even rounds given out, and I can't argue with it. If I'm giving someone a round where neither fighter did much work i'll usually give it to the man defending his crown.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I cant believe more people have voted yes than no.

    Whoever wins should get the verdict, no matter how close, if its a draw then the champ stays the champ so he already has that minor advantage.
     
  11. burzumboy

    burzumboy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you obviously missed the point of my post, i stated that for the challenger to win they have to do more. well that's because they TECHNICALLY do have to do more. because if they don't do more then their opponent then they have either drawn or lost. that is how boxing works. for anyone to win by decision they have to do more than their foe.

    that is all i was saying. i was just pointing out that your thread and the question herein is flawed. now if you were to ask whether a challenger having clearly outscored the champion should have to do more to win, than no would be the answer.
    so next time before you get pissy with a valid point explaining the flaw in your question reread what's written and understand it, before incorrectly retorting that i am posting 'BS'.

    good day mother****er.
     
  12. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whoever gets more points should win. Title status should not enter the equation.
     
  13. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're pointing out the ****ing obvious Einstein but it's funny how only your dumbass didn't understand the question while everyone else did. What you said is correct but is akin to pointing out that the sun is hot.

    Anyone with half a brain can understand that the question implies "should a challenger have to do more to win a round than he would otherwis do if he was not a challenger?" without me having to re-word it properly to your liking.

    If you wanna keep arguing semantics knock yourself out, but like I said, everyone else understood, people voted, the results are interesting.
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    you always have to do more than your opponent to win. In at least 7 out of 5 rounds. The champion's only advantage is that if he fight is a draw he remains champion.
     
  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    The fighters should be treated and scored equally when the first bell has rung, in the event of a draw the champ gets to keep his title. That should be his only advantage.

    In the "real world" however winning a title in the other guys backyard while fighting defensively is pretty hard to do.