A comprehensive analisys of the Pacquiao affair

I thought Hauser made a great point about De La Hoya at the end of the article.

 

He should just take test. However boxing needs to have a standardized testing system that is on par with the other major sports. I can see where Manny's camp is coming from, one fighter should not be able to dictate to the other in regards to this kind of thing. There needs to be a standard sytem that is sufficent to appease fighters, fans, and promotors etc. Currently we do not have that.

I don't believe Manny is juicing, but even if he was, he should just stop now, take the tests, and if he loses the fight - so what? A loss to Floyd will not hurt his legacy and his reputation will remain intact.

Interesting how this has already done more damage to Manny's reputation, when he hasn't ever failed a test, than positive results did for Roy, Mosley, Toney, and Holyfield combined. (I don't think Holyfield tested positive, but there was evidence of him buying Ped's)

 

No, it was Evan Fields who just happened to have the same address and phone number.

 

My mistake. Disregard

 

Was waiting for the article to turn up and saw a link in the general forum just before bedtime. Stayed up to read it but have to say I was appalled at the amount of people who posted 'Its too long, can someone summarise it?'

And these people would be the first to take sides.

As usual I reckon Hauser has written a great article, easily the best boxing writer there is today, I'd even read this guys shopping lists.

Mosley certainly takes a battering as does GBP.

Hausers ending with the challenge to De La Hoya shows exactly what Floyd is trying to pull.

 

Great article by Hauser yet again.
Good to see someone not nuthugging Golden Boy.

 

Eh, this Ariza character has changed his tune a little. In this article he says:

“But there’s one thing that’s very frustrating for me,” Ariza added. “Manny won’t let me do all the tests I want to do with him. There are tests I’d love to do to determine his lung capacity, but they’re invasive and he won’t let me do them. And there are other measurements, quite a few, that I’d like to take, but I can’t because Manny is very protective of his body.”


In another interview ( b. s c e n e) he had this to say:

"I am the one in charge, I am responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes. He is on the same thing that Amir Khan and Vanes Martirosyan is on and I don't give my guys any steroids. What I give them is all natural and It's my own special ingredients".

Very conflicting statements. Manny is so protective of his body yet he doesn't know what Ariza gives him.

Hauser could have mentioned the myriad of lies/excuses Toprank and his Pacs team have spewed about why he couldn't be tested. No mention either of Arum knowing from the start that random blood testing was Floyds request and he didn't have a problem with it originally. The fact that TR were negotiating drug testing with Floyd/Schaefer but all of a sudden it turns to defamation?

I'l have more on this piece later

 

awesome article. respect.

 

Read this the other day - absolutely the definitive article on this issue.

I think Manny needs to make concessions to take the tests - not to prove his innocence, but for the sake of the sport.

There needs to be a massive overhaul with standardised testing implemented and regular testing of anyone with in the top ten of an organisation.

Mayweather never whole heartedly wanted to fight Manny. Maybe not never, but certainly not now. I am starting to lean towards the idea that they are biding time to make the fight even bigger and this is one way of delaying. The 3 months wasn't enough time - now both fighters will go ahead in other fights and build public interest even further.

I also think if they fight head to head on March 13, Manny will slaughter Mayweather in the numbers - in Australia anyway.

 

Good post. I don't agree totally, but i think you have covered the major points.


I disagree where you say Floyd never whole heartedly wanted to fight Manny. How did Floyd know Pac would say no to random testing? Manny could have called his bluff and agreed. Then they would be fighting yeah?. Remember Floyd agreed to 8 oz gloves, 50/50 split and accepted a $10 million penalty for every pound over weight. Plus, he reduced the random testing window to have a cut off date of 14 days to apease Pac. Manny and his team originally said they would accept blood testing up to 5 days before the fight, then they changed to 30 days. They were all over the place with their excuses.

For the life of me, I can't see how Floyd is to blame here for the fight not going ahead, and I am trying to be impartial here. Two days after this fight was officially OFF, Pac v Clottey was made. Floyd is still scrambling for an opponent. It looks like Mosley later or bust. And Floyd didn't want to fight Pac? Nah, c'mon.

Interestingly...against common opponents, Floyd has outsold Pac every time. In saying that, Floyd couldn't compete on the same date against Pac v Clottey. Cintron looks his most worthy opponent, but Pac kills that fight.

Apparently March 13 is Floyds date with HBO. And his advisor Al Haymon has a very cosy relationship with them....even if Floyd does fight on the same day, no surprise if HBO do Floyds fight and Arum does his own Toprank PPV. I think Floyd will pass up on the date though.

 

It's a typical, very thorough Hauser piece but it does have a Pac slant to it.

He uses Al Bernstein as a reference in explaining why Mannys form has been unworldly. Bernstein sites footwork and Roach discipline

Did Hauser miss that Kermit Cintron and Paulie Milagnaggi went public with their suspicions about Pacs recent performances? I'l put more stock in Paulie and Kermits suspicion than a guy who watches from behind a microphone. After all, Malignaggi and Cintron do fight for a living.

Hauser also paints Schaefer and GBP's hyocrisy in all this using shane Mosley as proof. Of course Arum still representing convicted cheater Margarito is ok.

 

Mayweather should have challenged the drug testing policy in court instead of trying to make an example of Manny. Manny has every right to tell Floyd and his crew to go **** themselves.

I'll say this though...it would have been more settling if Manny would of complied with the commission if they demanded random testing, and not just choose dates themselves.

 

Great story Rodin.

The implications stretch far and wide. Manny's supersticions have created supersuspicions as targets.. lame on both counts. PBF is clearly a great fighter with fewer champion qualities than Pac... assuming Pac is innocent. Hauser opens a complete can of worms where no one is innocent, cheats are spoken of and 'questionable' suspicions are turned around to confront the 'coward' PBF.

Pac's ritualistic behaviour is based on very little more than the normal supersticions.. much like Steve Waughs unchangable Test Green Baggy.. Pac's Hotel Room, same gym, same prayer church etc leaves nothing to the imagination.. driving to the fight in a seperate vehicle raises little also.. Although, thinking about it... Pac's choice of the same hotel room, can open a window of possibilities. A place for 'roids to be placed by another, prior to training... How long is the hotel room booked in advance, prior to Pac's using of the hotel? Speculative, I know. Maybe he just likes the convex ceiling mirrors that make his apendage appear less than shrunken, hides his bald spot, pimples and man boobs?? A fit of rage my occur should he be placed in a different room? lol.

The Neveda State Athletic Commission are just as lame as anything else American based. 'Olympic stlye' drug checks?? LMAO... The ever growing list of exposed (10 years after the event) US Track & Field cheats is completely forceful of large piles of **** through each of the Olympic Rings. The stench wont cease.

Pac is more than likely a cheat... PBF is less than likely a hero. The game has to be Policed... Authorities are human, curruptable and suitably describe by countless expletives.. The circle is never ending.

Why wouldn't a kid raised in the gutter take 'roids, in hope of making a squilion dollars in boxing?? Robbing a passing Grand Ma as a child would not have embarassed them.. certainly didn't bother Tyson.

Corruption starts a the top of the spectrum (Authority), regardless of who takes drugs first, as the Top End is the means to the same **** happening again, over and over.

Hauser's story is amazing, yet the end is no better than TeamPBF's requests to TeamPac.. All fighters should be available to random tests by a credible drug testing agency.. Not a USA, Phillapine, China, German or Russian based consortium.. In saying that, there is never going to be a truly infallible solution. No one is incorruptable.... especially the Yanks.