A detailed and comprehensive break down of the horrendous heavyweight era we are in.

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  1. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Did you actually read the post? :lol:

    Bloody hell...
     
  2. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You say its a poor fight when someone hammers the **** out of the other. Again I said how should the fight happen? Stand and go toe to toe? Wladimir is not fighting any Foremans so no it is not a poor fight.
     
  3. DrMo

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    No I'm not, perhaps I should be more specific

    good fighters + good fights = a good era

    The post-Lewis era hasn't delivered in terms of quality, depth of talent/skill or excellent fights.
     
  4. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seeing Wladimir stick a jab in your face for 12rounds and the other guy not even bother to attack because he doesn't have a clue or is too tired does not equate to a poor fight? You've just tried to mock DrMo's theory but it has backfired.
     
  5. ApatheticLeader

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    It does equate to a poor fight. The point being that it isn't relevant.
     
  6. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point is relevant because if Ali vs Foreman was a poor fight,and you're prolly with the 1% that think so then what do you make of Wladimirs fight?? Being alone and poor in a third world country with no indoor plumbing??
     
  7. ApatheticLeader

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    I'm not sure more Mike Mollo's are what we need. Having said that, in terms of eras being memorable, exciting fights are needed. But there's a potential difference between a good era in terms of quality, and a memorable era.

    I will always say that heavyweight landscape isn't bad now, and is getting better. But from Lewis' retirement to 2008, it wasn't very strong. 03-06 is where it really suffered.
     
  8. ApatheticLeader

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    1% that think so?! Oopsy daisy...
     
  9. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When a champion can go in the ring stand there with feet planted and the other guy stands there eating his jab with no reply is a sign the era is WEAK.
     
  10. SP_Mauler

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    You say other?? Who else says
     
  11. DrMo

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    I disagree with that, Vitali was at his best plus there was Rahman, Brewster, Maskaev, Sanders, Byrd, Ruiz, Liakovich etc.

    Its the last 5 years that has seen the division really look poor imo, which incidentally has also been the same time Wlad has looked untouchable.
     
  12. SP_Mauler

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    When the biggest fight in Klit vs Haye ends up like that you know the era is **** weak
     
  13. Cableaddict

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    I blame it all on Bob Arum.





    I blame EVERYTHING on Bob Arum.






    Even the weather. :cool:
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

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    The fact you mentioned those names is proof that every era is automatically weaker than the one before in the eyes of boxing fans. It's not done on purpose, just a strange mirage that seems to cloud us.

    I'm sorry, but Tony Thompson (and Haye) is better than every single one of those fighters with the exception of a prime Rahman, and perhaps a prime Byrd. I love Byrd, but he's got cult hero status amongst boxing fans, who these days think he was better than he actually was.

    Sanders wasn't all that at all. But I can't even count that defeat as a one-off necessarily for Wlad. It was just so.....dominant. Without hint of a fluke. But he has dominant victories over better fighters than Sanders either side of the defeat. So I don't count it against him much.
     
  15. dinovelvet

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    Imagine what would happen to Wlad if he lay on the ropes against prime Foreman like Ali did?
    One round of Ali/Frazier is more exciting than Wlad's whole career.

    They burnt more energy in one round than he does in a whole 12 round fight.