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A Fair And Balanced Аssessment Of The Frequently Belittled Resume Of Gennady Golovkin

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abuffy said: ↑

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:yepI figured you'd like it.

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Beouche said: ↑

Top post CST

Sure to draw the grubs like flies to ****

Not even gonna bother reading the 4 pages of Youtube level trolling
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Gracias Beouche.:thumbsup

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abuffy said: ↑

Canelo doesn't knocked people out in 3 rounds or reconstrure faces/end careers like GGG does. No one is scared to get in the ring with Canelo. The fact Mayweather did says enough.

Canelo has fought world class fighters, but to say GGG passed on his chance is baloney. Ward never wanted the fight, and the only time he did was when Golovkin was finishing up negotiations with Lemieux. Though, even then he probably didn't want it because the offer he gave was the most laughable thing I've ever heard.
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boxinggenuis said: ↑

Well considering that Canelo has been willing to fight fighters superior and more accomplished than GGG I highly doubt he is scared to fight him.

On the other hand when Triple G had a chance to fight Ward he made all type of excuses because he knew there was ZERO chance he could beat Ward.
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Old shot to s*** fighters will little punching power left, or slick fighters who can't hurt him but may outbox him. None of those guys were threats to his physical well being, GGG a big MW KO machine IS.

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emallini said: ↑

Its not complete garbage but for a supposed ATG unbeatable killer its terrible.
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Terrible is very harsh, its good but not great...yet. And no one is claiming he's an ATG, only that he has the potential to be.

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Damn, this guy took hours writing a paragraph when it could be summed up in 4 words. Bummy loves fighting bums.

Which is why his name is Bummyluvkin. Everyone already knows that. Boxers, casuals, sports writers.. the only people who don't get the point are Bummyluvkin fangirls(for obvious reasons)

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DirtyDan said: ↑

Damn, this guy took hours writing a paragraph when it could be summed up in 4 words. Bummy loves fighting bums.

Which is why his name is Bummyluvkin. Everyone already knows that. Boxers, casuals, sports writers.. the only people who don't get the point are Bummyluvkin fangirls(for obvious reasons)
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It took me 45 minutes.:good I write very fast.:deal

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Gennady's Good Boy's are now going out in the world and doing some Good Boying or their own.

Clottey is now the Grand GoodBoy of GGG by way of Rosado.:deal
100-90 He schooled him with ease as I said he would, regardless of what the biased judges scorecards read, it was a complete and utter thrashing.

(credit goes to IB for the GGB term)

CST80, Dec 20, 2015

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boxinggenuis said: ↑

Andre Ward says hi. Bottom line is Triple G is a protected fighter who hasn't shown any guts.
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LOL Yes everyone is protecting GGG by dodging him!

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DirtyDan said: ↑

Damn, this guy took hours writing a paragraph when it could be summed up in 4 words. Bummy loves fighting bums.

Which is why his name is Bummyluvkin. Everyone already knows that. Boxers, casuals, sports writers.. the only people who don't get the point are Bummyluvkin fangirls(for obvious reasons)
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CST80 did a nice job! A very readable, unbiased breakdown! Golovkin's opponents should get credit for facing him. I don't understand the bias against someone who fights regularly against the best of those willing to share the ring with him!

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boxinggenuis said: ↑

OP, you could of saved a lot of time with this. Triple G has fought bums and cans his whole career. End of story.
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Somebody's lips got tired reading CST80's post and is lashing out!

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Nighttrain said: ↑

CST80 did a nice job! A very readable, unbiased breakdown! Golovkin's opponents should get credit for facing him. I don't understand the bias against someone who fights regularly against the best of those willing to share the ring with him!
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:goodThanks Nighttrain I really appreciate the compliments.

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CST80 said: ↑

Marco Antonio Rubio As solid a journeyman as you're going to get, he has KO wins over Rigoberto Alvarez, David Lemieux, Domenico Spada, Jorge Cota, stopped Baldomir quicker than Canelo, went to war with and should have got the win over Chavez Jr. or at the very least a draw, and was never put down by Kelly Pavlik, his corner pulled him out because they got sick of seeing him eat bombs all night from the incredibly heavy handed Pavlik. So the guy who'd only been properly stopped once when he was a kid by the hard hitting Jantuah, tasted GGG's power and basically quit, he said f*** this, it isn't worth it and took his money and went home. Then he moved up to Super Middleweight the next year to face Anthony Dirrell who's somewhat of a power puncher, he put Sakio Bika down twice in their two matches, and The Dog no matter how hard he tried couldn't drop Veneno.

Martin Murray While personally I don't think very highly of Murray, one thing that can be said for him is he has an iron chin, he's gritty and isn't easy to look good against, proof of that lies in his three highest profile matches. He had a draw with Sturm, probably shouldn't have but it was close, gave Martinez all he could handle, but debatably and IMO rightfully lost but it could have been a draw, and recently fought Arthur Abraham to a SD loss that could have easily been a win for MM or at least a draw. He barely beat fellow GGG victim Khomitsky twice, but he does have solid wins over Spada, Nick Blackwell and Max Bursak. GGG could have easily dispense of him in round 4 but kept him around to entertain the masses and savagely took him out in round 11.

Willie Monroe Jr. He took part in the ESPN's Boxcino Middleweight Tournament which he won. He did it with 2 impressive near shutout performances over the undefeated hard punching Brandon Adams and scored another shutout over hot Ukrainian Prospect Vitaly Kopylenko. He followed that up by beating the rugged Donatas Bondrovas and completely dominated Bryan Vera with ease and even dropped him something Chavez Jr couldn't pull off in two fights. He has one early close loss, against who else Darnell Boone, but he wasn't dropped like Ward, Kovalev or KO'd like Adonis. But GGG hit him so hard he couldn't feel his friggin legs. Monroe may still go on to be a force at MW or JMW, he's a very slick and solid fighter.

David Lemieux His handlers made a terrible miscalculation in putting him in with Rubio when they did, everyone thought that Rubio was shot after the Pavlik loss and figured David could add Marco's name to his resume, but Marco was just wily and tough enough to let David wear himself down although absorbing a ton of shots to do it, Lemieux had won the majority of the fight, but Rubio manage to stop the young lion when he was tired and with a punch behind his left ear which put David down affecting his equilibrium then a few seconds later his corner stopped the fight prematurely. His confidence shattered he fought Alcine next, with his head not in it, fearing that he would gas again, so he fought more conservatively letting another veteran get the upper hand and beat him by MD. After that he bounced back in a big way by stopping Rosado who's as tough as nails, and dropping N'Dam almost as many times as the much bigger Quillin, the shots David landed could have KO'd a horse, add to that he nearly killed Fernando Guerrero, all three of those wins are far more impressive than Peter Quilli's performance against them. GGG realizing what a monstrous puncher he had before him, never let him get close controlled him with his jab, and handled him with greater ease than anyone before.

I'm sure most of what I've written will not make slightest difference to any of the haters, and they will most likely not even come close to changing their minds, but the reality is, most of you guys don't know a damn thing about the Middleweight division because it is not US centric and you haven't seen them on HBO or Showtime very often, and in your minds if they don't get TV coverage they must suck.... which couldn't be further from the truth. GGG's resume is just as solid as many fighters who have praise heaped on them by the boatloads on this site, and if GGG was American and spoke better English, he'd be considered the best fighter in the world by many of you.

Is it ATG level...no, not yet it isn't.. but the absolute ease with which he's handled all of the aforementioned fighters who are usually a handful for almost anyone should be all anyone needs as evidence of what a monster GGG truly is. He isn't close to Mayweather, Ward, Pacquiao, Kovalev or Canelo in terms of name value, but that's to be expected when no one is willing to fight him.

Judging his wins quality wise they are comparable to wins over Maidana, Guerrero, Algieri, Ortiz, Margarito, Judah, Miranda, Rios, Bika level guys. He hasn't got his shot at a Marquez, Froch, Kessler, Cotto, Bradley, Mosley, Alvarez level guy yet, but when he does, he'll prove to everyone what his fans have known all along. That he's one of the best fighters in the world. And most likely after his first quality win he'll go right back to being one of the most avoid fighters in the world.
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Golovkin's resume for todays middleweight division is solid. Comparing it to past middleweight eras though, it sucks. None of Golovkin's opponents would be top 10 guys most years of the 90s. If you put Golovkin's 10 best middleweight opponents, in with say Hopkins 10 best middleweight opponents. Golovkin's opposition wouldn't fair well. This is just a really low quality middleweight era right now. Golovkin's best opponents are at 154 or 160.

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:goodThanks Nighttrain I really appreciate the compliments.
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They are sincere. I like hearing your take even when I disagee (ie when you are wrong ).

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Didn't know you watched Fox CST

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