A few advantages to keeping your guard low.

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Many TV boxing analysts tell the audience its not wise to keep your guard low. In many cases they are correct. A high guard with a tucked in chin most certainly makes it harder for your opponent to land head shots.

    Having said that, in my opinion there are a few advantages to keeping your guard low.

    They are:

    1 ) Balance! It is easier for many fighters to move swiftly with their hands closer to their waist level than in front of their face.

    2 ) Going to the body.

    3 ) Landing the counter hook.

    4 ) Protecting against body shots.

    5 ) Baiting the other fighter.

    6 ) Creating a clinch.

    7 ) Conserving energy.

    While keeping your guard low is not ideal, it can work well with fast handed and fleet footed boxers who have solid head movement. It can also work well with very tall boxers who understand how to fight tall and use their longer reach.

    Agree? Disagree?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    All those things are true, but the main reason IMO is that fighters are taught to fight against opponents with high guards. Low guards shows them new angles, new punches, in many instances as well as different reads and tells.
     
  3. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Also I think it can free a certain kind of fighter, loosen him up and allow him to be more creative both offensively and defensively. This would be more true to the "boxer"; think Ali.
     
  4. janitor

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    I think that you are right.

    Early boxing manuals around the turn of the century advised a lower guard to protect against body shots (presumably they were almost as dangerous as head shots with the smaller gloves, see Corbett Fitzsimmons).

    Early fighters who used a low guard often adopted a higher guard when they went into a crouch and their body was not exposed.

    One fight that sticks in my mind on this subject is Haye Macaranelli. Haye used a low guard to draw in Macaranelli's shots and easily manipulated then countered his opponent with a higher guard.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Mendoza you can do all those things with a guard up

    The main reason to keep a low guard is to have your hands in a better position to throw better punches quicker with better form, its a tad harder with your hands up, Tyson is 1 of the best at punching out of his guard

    The best example of a High Guard versus Low Guard at the elite level is Barrera-Hamed
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just bring the elbow down to block to the body, thats why a good guard needs the elbow to be at a right angle from the ground so you can block with the elbow for bodyshots leaving the hands free for blocking headshots
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Yes, but it is easier to accomplish what I was tackling about with your guard low.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You can never really block body shots properly against a knowledgable and determined attacker.

    The body is big, has a lot of pressure points, and as Sam Langford said (has no eyes).

    You kill the body and the head dies as well.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can if you know how to block :D Obviously as the fight goes on mistakes can be forcedor the pressure makes lapses
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    So basicaly you can't.

    Combined with guarding your chin these mistakes/lapses become ubiquitous.

    Tommy Gibbons said in his biography that he used a low guard and put his chin on the line to entice Jack Dempsey away from going to the body.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can't evade getting punched indefinately, your supposed to try, otherwise you get Gatti'd (RIP)
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    OK.

    Protecting your chin over time is one thing.

    Protecting your body over time (while you cant exactly ignore your chin) is a hopeless quest.
     
  13. godking

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    It only works if you are faster with better footwork or significantly taller then your opponent without those attributes a patient fighter will corner you and make you pay.
     
  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    You're right, but most fighters put their guards down because they think they're the second coming of Roy Jones (*cough* Carl Froch *cough*) when they haven't got the necessary skill level to be able to defend themselves with that style.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Wow. Did you make that up?

    Just kidding. Surely one of the oldest truisms in the sport.

    Another take on the guard is the (orthodox) right high and left low, a la Holmes or even Toney. This seems particularly effective and energy efficient if you keep your chin tucked. If not, like Holmes, you can be susceptible to big right hands.