A few points you have to consider if you think Pacquiao is guilty...

That's all good and well. He still should just take the tests. It's not a big deal, and it will mean that a fight gets made that everyone wants to see.

 

Pac is not on steroids. It's just that it is more fun to say he is on steroids because everyone he fought looked so bad against him. That's all.

Floydiots are on a mission just like *******s are on another.

 

Oscar, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey fought Manny without blood testing excuse. Floyd must be a real *****. How do you all explain this?

 

If Floyd is such a *****, why not just take the tests? Mosley was asked to do it and he did. Tyson asked Holyfield to do it, and Evander did it. It's an unusual request, but it's no reason for the fight not to come off.

 

I have a feeling that neither side really wanted the March 13th date that bad. It was just four months after Pacquiao-Cotto, and Mayweather-Pacquiao might end up being the biggest fight ever in terms of money. They couldn't delay it until May or June since Pacquiao has his elections to deal with.

From what I've read about EPO, which Margaret Goodman described as the "perfect drug for boxing", it has a very short half-life. So if he's on EPO, then yes, he'd use it in training and it'd be out of his system by fight night.

I don't know.

Of course not. PEDs are "performance-enhancing", not miracle drugs that turn an average athlete into a legend.

PEDs help you train harder and improve certain things. Your muscle memory may improve, but Pacquiao was born with gifts that 99% of people will never get.

I don't get why people so often bring up Pacquiao's talent and physical gifts, as if that's being questioned just because people question him being clean. Again, they're performance-enhancers. They can help, but if you're not good enough, you're not good enough.

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Some people just assume he's dirty without a doubt, and others just assume he's clean without a doubt. I really don't get either side. Team Pacquiao has handled the situation poorly, but that doesn't mean he's without a doubt dirty. Again, maybe both sides just didn't want the fight so quickly and looked for reasons to make the other side just look bad, like they were the ones killing the fight.

As for him being clean...why the hell would anyone be the least bit surprised by a pro athlete using something to get an edge? Wow, that's really shocking. :roll: These ultra-competitive athletes, whose livelihoods are based on their performances, would rather be fair and lose rather than break the rules, work harder, and win? Sure. The only thing that surprises me is how negligent they sometimes are in getting caught, and sometimes what they use. Like James Toney using a horse steroid.:?

 

Fans just want to see them fight. They don't ****ing care about blood testing. Leave the testing to the regulating body to do their job. Blood testing are for amateurs, otherwise NFL, MLB and NBA would have adopted it.

 

The NFL, MLB, and NBA all have unions. The leagues have all proposed blood testing, but the player's union always shoots it down. Boxing is much different. The commissions don't have the money to impliment a reliable testing program. Manny just fought in Texas where they don't even bother to drug test.

Fighters have every right to impliment more stringent drug test as part of the fight contract. It's been done before and allegedly there is a promotional company that makes it a standard requirement in all of their fight contracts. It's not a big deal. There's no good reason for Pacquiao not to go through with it.

 

Only one way to find out really. Shoot him and see if the bullets bounce off.:good

 

Finally someone on this board with a brain! :good

 

not even the mayweathers believed that pac is on steriods...

for them it's a-side meth.

 

Good points and all but at the end of the day what I see is a man walking away from millions of dollars for a teaspoon of blood and the stinks of something sketchy. Maybe Manny isn't on anything but I can't think of anything rationale to explain why he would walk away if he was innocent. And for anybody to think there is no possibility he is actually taking something in an already dirty sport like many other sports that is littered with drug use is just completely unreasonable.

 

I would have rather had Pacquiao agree to the test and have fought PBF in Dallas Stadium March 13th instead of that epic pile of BS that I paid money to see.

Hindsight being 20/20 of course.

I hope in negotiations that Pac's next fights are all in Dallas without steroid tests. We'll see who's really more desperate to not make the fight. PBF or Pac.

 

i only question Pac simply because when given the oopportunity to clear his name...he didnt just say no and ONE valid reason...instead he not only said no but gave several bullshyt excuses that kept proving to be questionable as well...just so inconsitent with his reasons...that should make anyone be suspicious.....i dont care if it was Ali, floyd, Ray Leornard, Tyson, Robinson....anyone who stumbles over their excuses as to why they dont want to take the test seem very questionable.


He may not be on anything he may just be very special....however...WHY ALL THE BULLSHYT EXCUSES.....give us one solid reason. He could have said i dont have to do what floyd says fine.

Yet he gives all other crazy explanations...then fianlly settle for the Floyd isnt bigger than the sport reasoning which is a good reasoning but they should have just STUCK with that reasoning instead of allllll the gobbage they spewed out....now....he is rightfully in question.