A few points you have to consider if you think Pacquiao is guilty...

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: You think Floyd fans are any different? You're like a crackhead trying to look down on methheads...:roll:
     
  2. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd didn't make me think anything. I never thought Manny was on anything until he refused testing within certain limits. Manny is the one who made himself look sketchy
     
  3. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You see, I have the advantage of not being a fan of either guy and seeing things for what they are. :deal
     
  4. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    All that talking and the only one dumb is you. Nothing you said means anything and disputes the fact that MANNY CATFISH changed the rules of boxing for his fight. He set his own penalties and weight class. If he wants to fight a Welterweight.. he fights at the mandated welterweight limit.. Like Floyd did.. You are a pathetic piece of moose **** and so unintelligent you cant see the hypocrasy. But Floyd dont make the rules.. but Pac can blatantly make up his own rules in boxing. There is no defense to this *****.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Playing dumb? The WW limit is 147 lbs. When you ask for a catchweight of 145 lbs. and then ask the guy to pay $1 mill for every lb. he comes over the limit, that's effectively changing the limit for that fight from 147 lbs. to 145 lbs. That's common sense right there. And it doesn't matter why he asked for a catchweight(even though he had already fought a bigger guy at 147 lbs.) the fact of the matter is, he still basically instituted his own rules. Pac thought Cotto was too big, Mayweather thinks Pacquiao is on something. The both had their concerns and went above and beyond the rules in order to address their concerns. If Pac doesn't want to take the tests, then don't take them. But it's completely hypocritical for him to sit there and admonish Floyd for supposedly making up the rules when he's basically done the same thing himself.
     
  6. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think Pac knows what's in his body..... lol The ***** can barely speak english

    And there are drugs that give you high amounts of endurance........adrenaline?

    Is pac guilty who knows but all of your points can be stated in the opposite too...If all of those points are true then why else not take the test other than your guilty and need it to win
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The weight issue was agreed on both sides. Both sides said yes. Unlike Floyd vs. Marquez BTW. And who the hell said he's "admonishing" anyone? Roach and Arum are the ones who's said the most on this. And save the "Then Pac needs to tell them..." spiel... pointless.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    STFU negative stereotype... You're a waste and you add NOTHING... Just be angry and talk about *******s...
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    good points. but this floyd groupie and some bitter set of fans would continue to ignore this points and would tend to believe a crackhead than this.
     
  10. dilayro

    dilayro Active Member Full Member

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    i agree with Lance that your good poster. Your bias but you prove your point cogently so I have nothing against you.

    There is really no point for blood testing cuz he didn't ask JMM to do it. there is no evidence to suggest that Manny is into something so why do boxer has to go some hustle when its not necessary. Floyd's fighting a flyweight and still he's looking for a blood test that proves nothing so why waste time with it?
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I have stated plenty of times that I personally don't think the blood testing is neccesary. At the same time, there is no good reason for him not to just go through with it. His reasons have been pretty suspect. There was absolutely no evidence that Holyfield was on aynthing when Tyson asked him to take addtional tests before they fought. Of course, a few years later, plenty of evidence surfaced that suggested that Holyfield was in fact using PEDs. Drug testing in boxing is outdated and everyone knows this. I don't know how we can sit here and get on a guy wanting tougher drug testing while applauding someone who would rather stick with an outdated and largely ineffective system.
     
  12. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the point is why ask for anything in that matter.....why should pac ask people to fight at catch weights...why ask mayweather to pay for every lbed he comes in over the welter limit when he has never come in over 147lbs since fighting at welter....

    the fact is both fighters exercised their rights to stipulate one agreed to all of the others stipulations the other one didn't...
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The weight was agreed to by both sides because Cotto knew that's what he had to do to get the fight. Losing too much weight has been proven to have a negative effect on a fighter. At the same time it's been proven that giving a teaspoon of blood will have no negative physical effect. So we have Pacquiao sitting and saying Floyd is not the commissioner and shouldn't making up rules and also claiming that the blood tests will weaken him. At the same time he's sitting there making up his own rules, one of which has been proven to weaken fighters.
     
  14. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As someone who has been very critical of Manny Pacquiao with regaurds to his ducking Floyd Mayweather Jr. I have never sugusted that he was using performance enhancers. I beleve that there are other reasons for his reluctance to step in to a boxing ring with Mayweather.
    First of all Pacquiao is an extremely talanted/skilled boxer. He is more so than most of the boxers around today and in the welterweight devision. His wins while impresive are wins he should have. With the exception of his second round knock out of Ricky Hatton there is nothing unusual about any of his other wins at welterweight.
    People like to point out that he is a little guy that he was a flyweight champion. Pacquiao is 5′ 6½″with a 67" reach. That makes him a tall flyweight, and not a small welterweight.
    I don't think that Pacquiao's reasons for avoiding Mayweather are preformanc enhancer related. Nearing the end of his career and looking towards a career in politicts. A loss even to another great boxer Like Mayweather could be devasting to his asperations. Mayweather is not De La Hoya, Cotto or Clottey.
     
  15. dilayro

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    Why did he not ask JMM to blood test?