A few questions about Benn/Mclellan fight...

Whitaker was a close but clear winner on my card.

There isn't a realistic argument to score the fight to Oscar other than aggression, which doesn't really count if you're missing all night.

The Tito/DLH fight was closer than it's perceived to be, turn off Jim Lampley's flag waving and despite not putting in a great shift he forced Oscar to give away the last three rounds. Even though I'd have it 7-5 to DLH he deserved to get fired by the judges for such a cynical showing.

He was a ten round fighter unfortunately, that weakness came back to haunt him several times in future years.

 

I had it 7-5 as well, but find 114-114 inconceivable, let alone a Tito win.

That definitely was close but clear.

I had Pea winning the De La Hoya fight but there were some harder to score rounds than the Tito fight.

Yes, De La Hoya was rarely a 12 round Championship fighter, but I've never put my finger on why other than 'born without an engine' because he faded in different fights whilst taking different approaches so it's not always 'he punched himself out'.

 

Oscar clearly and Cleanly beat Tito Trinidad, wasn't even close imo. He boxed Tito's head off and i don't blame him for being ultra cautious in the last 3 rounds like some do, because he had to pay a price for putting on a clinic in the first 8 rounds, and that was extreme fatigue and blisters all over his feet. Which would've made him easier to tag and stop had he done anything else. Can't see how anyone could score that fight for Trinidad.

The Pete Whitaker fight could've gone either way. It was no where near Trinidad/De La Hoya. I had Whitaker nicking it, but have no problem with Oscar getting the nod. It was what you liked. I've said this before but Whitaker was at a stage where he could still make you miss, but not make you pay as he could so brilliently do before.

Flea- I can put my finger on it. The reason Oscar had those problems late in fights, is because he never learned to fight through fatigue.

He never had huge stamina problems. What he would do is he would take a little breather around the 8th, 9th or 10th rounds and finish crazy in the last two. Particularly the 12th. He did it against Ike, John John Molina and to a lesser extent Pete Whitaker.

Everybody has a point where they get fatigued, Oscar just couldn't hide it and never fought through his second wind. It was probabily his biggest flaw.

 

Good shout Slip. Conceding he was tired and not being able to mask it spurred his opponents on as well.

 

Thornhill, home of Steve Conroy?

 

I don't know of him, I'm afraid.

Southampton?:good

 

Nah mate, bit further north haha.

 

I scored that fight before - and I remeber I had it something like 115-113 to De La Hoya.

However - it was clear that Tito wanted that win more - he pushed the fight - he had the desire - and them last 3 rounds make Oscar look bad - running away and turning his head away from combat - people getting up out of their seats and doing chicken clucking with their arms to mock De La Hoyas lack of desire for the battle.

Last 3 round lost him the fight - and if he stood and traded - he might of got himself knocked out.

De La Hoya cannot complain though - he got gifted a couple of dodgy decsions during his career - and this night was the one where it went the other way.

 

I would have loved to have seen it myself.

Quartey - one big strong tough ******* - with a knockout punch - had Oscar put on his ass like a sack of ****.

Real danger Trindad could have got knocked out there.

 

Quartey creamed in $4,500,000 for fighting De La Hoya.

Nice payday - buy some nice things with that.

 

i always thought quartey was brilliant. loved his style and what a jab!

 

I agree! Great jab :deal But not a massive shame he and Tito didn't fight IMO.