A few unbiased views post-Super 6 finale.

Peppermint · Dec 18, 2011

Good post, its refreshing to see an unbias assesment. It think that at the moment Ward-Bute is the only fight that would raise either guys status. However, Andre Direll, has the ability to make a mark in the division also if he comes back and is still mentally in it. I dont know that he is though.

keith · Dec 18, 2011

Samurai's Slice said: ↑

Despite not likely Ward and being a fan of Bute here are my views on S6.

#1:

Ward Has Earned his spot as 1# Super Middleweight as of now:
I'll face it, Ward has worked hard to get where he is, Bet Kessler, Froch, and Abraham. And despite hating the way he did it and feeling he is unentertaining, He has managed to outwork and outclass his opponents most of the time. And also despite the fact I believe Bute could beat everyone on Ward's list and likely even him. I will say Ward has proved way more then Bute has in recent years and deserves this spot.

Froch, Despite being 34 has a few good years yet:
Froch did bad in that fight, He mostly got outworked with Ward's better handspeed and skillset. But he is still a world class fighter with many good bouts there for him including Kessler 2, Dirrell 2 and Bute.

Ward Has 1 major issue to work on, Stamina.: Despite doing great last night, Outworking and outclassing Froch for most of the fight, He got tired in the late rounds. In 12 he looked horrible, He even spit out his mouthpiece. He needs to make sure he works on his stamina just like Bute did after Andrade 1.

Horrible Scorecards: Ward dominated that fight, Won 1-6, Lost 2-3 of the late rounds because he started to gas out. These 115-113 cards are horrible.

Bute is the only legit opponent for Ward: Both Dirrell Bros get outclassed, Anthony is too green anyways. Kessler lost clearly, Don't care to see it again. Bute is the only matchup I care to see with Ward at 168 Lbs. He is the 2nd best SMW now in my book so lets get Bute-Ward going. In my opinion this matchup is close. And both fighters are ready so lets end the question mark on who is the best.

The winner of a Bute-Ward matchup has many good fights at Light Heavyweight, Winner needs to move up:
Tavoris Cloud, Gabriel Campillo, Jean Pascal, B-Hop, Erdei, ect. There are good matchups for the future at Super Middleweight like Maderna, Thomas Oosthuizen, Adonis Stevenson, Anthony Dirrell, Andre Dirrell, ect. but they can move between weights once these fighters get more experience. Or if they could, Move down for a Martinez super-fight.

Ward Has hit P4P, But not Top 5.: I'd say 6-8 for now.

New Rankings:
1. Andre Ward
2. Lucian Bute
3. Mikkel Kessler
4. Carl Froch
5. Andre Dirrell
6. Glen Johnson
7. George Groves
8. Adonis Stevenson
9. Robert Stieglitz
10. Thomas Oosthuizen

( NOTE: Most difficult division to rank. )

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Great post other than having Johnson too high.........

Keith

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