It is, I just have other things to do than waisting my time argueing on how bias you are against Tyson. Truthfully I really don't care if you hated him with a passion. Now if I hurt your feelings about telling you about yourself, i'm sorry but truth be told, your bias. :hi::hi:
I don't think he took Douglas seriously and he payed dearly for it, Douglas before quiting against Tucker was holding his own with him, Tucker was very good in his prime & one the few guys in the 80s that was competitive with Tyson.
Tyson had beaten Tucker who at his best, i would say was better than Douglas, he also had wins over Bruno, Spinks, Thomas, and Holmes, all were about the same class as Douglas.
Its just that simple......Tyson may not have been peaked as if to fight a perrenial grade A contender, but he was in shape, and in fighting shape.... ....great fighters all the time are thrust into those situations where they may underestimate a particular opponent and they turn out to give them a run for their money..... .....great fighters however bring out the greatness in them and fight through finding a way. Tyson was in fighting shape but failed miserably in every way vs Douglas....... .....if someone wants to talk about an out of shape Tyson in a big fight, try his fight with Lennox Lewis where he weighed a ridiculous 233 lbs....thats an out of shape Mike Tyson.
Douglas was beating Tucker before he quit, so it goes to show he was fully capable of performing with even the most peaked Tyson, and his performance vs Tyson was'nt any kind of a fluke.
In your opinion he was beating him. I saw Tucker winning the fight by a point going in the 10th and than he picked the pace up and stopped douglas. He was capable of competing but that doesn't mean he was better and he wasn't better than Tucker. Tyson beat Tucker pretty easy and Tyson didn't bring a 100% in the tucker fight and still won it easy. Only difference he came to fight against Tucker and the reason being is he had competent trainers like Kevin Rooney who made sure of that, but he damn sure didn't come to fight in that Douglas fight and it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
Nonsense! Pavlik came to fight against Hopkins, but it was Hopkins who made sure that Pavlik could not implement his fight plan. The same goes for Douglas vs Tyson....Douglas kept Tyson at the end of a heavy jab, and fired hard rights behind it, that prevented Tyson from unfolding his fight plan. People always make excuses for the fallen fighter who was a huge favorite.....but quite simply, when upsets like this happen, the underdog deserves much of the credit. Mike Tyson was at 220 lbs, a heavyweight who did'nt have to dehydrate to any weight, and he simply got picked apart, beaten up, and destroyed by Buster Douglas.
I agree but the Douglas Tyson got rarely showed up, Tyson wasn't expecting to be fighting someone as good as Tucker in Japan, he nearly pulled out the victory, but he took too much of a beating that night.
its all bul****. truth is douglas was fearless on that nyt and almost unbeatable becuase of all the things that had happened lyk his mums death
I had a post that got deleted on this, so lets make this simple. Tyson in his prime ala vs. Spinks would have KTFO Douglas in 1 round. Douglas has done nothing before or since in boxing. Tysons was ARROGANT TOO MUCH INTO JAPANESE GIRLS LISTENED TO HIS OWN HYPE DID NOT TRAIN The final is hte most important, because the KO was due to him gassing. The ultimate sin in boxing, is to lose a fight because you gas... Embarassing...
Hillarious stuff........ .....Tyson did not gas, he got the stuffing knocked out of him..... It was an accumulation of hard shots that finally put Tyson away.....it had nothing to do with gassing, Tyson lost every one of those rounds the same way from the first to the last.....nothing to do with gassing.
Pavlik trained hard for Hopkins and even said he never got tired one time in the fight. You can see he was in great shape. Tyson DID NOT train hard at all for DOUGLAS BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS PUSH OVER. Bernard Hopkins is a living Legend and Douglas is no where in the same league as someone like that. THAT'S LIKE APPLES AND ORANGES.
Tyson would never have KO'd that version of Douglas in rd 1, the Douglas who fought Holy, sure but skilled fighters with good foot work who could really MOVE would give tyson problems, Tucker and Tillis come to mind, IMO a young Holmes & Ali would've given him trouble.
Yeah but you dont want to show up like Douglas for Holyfield fight. Heres Rooney talking about it starting at 3:10. [yt]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/OZuQ9ApvduI&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/OZuQ9ApvduI&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/yt]