A historians take on the lack of Sullivan's opponents making the cut as the best ( 1920 )

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You such a rube, read what he wrote. He agrees with me with, Sullivan ducked Slavin. End of. Be hopefully I don't read his book on Johnson because if he's accurate in bringing out some of the information, you'll be on al all-time defense.

    I already know plenty of Jeffries, Fitz or Corbett. Go back to the lounge before you get banned again. It's not about negative reviews, or who sold more books. There's your target to escape or start a BS topic. As said before I prefer books written then the subject material is living.

    Pollack's style doesn't include a lot of content outside the ring, that would be newer information for me.
     
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  2. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you bother to read what I write, you won't have to invent a debate with me.
     
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  3. janitor

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    Events outside the ring, are as important as events inside the ring, when assessing why a fight did or didn't happen.

    April 21/1888, Jackson leaves Australia.

    June 18/1888, Jackson's first ring appearance in the USA.

    In August of 1888 Sullivan contracted Typhoid Fever (exact date uncertain), and is bed ridden.

    September 17/1888, the Evening world reported that Sullivan was dangerously ill, unable to keep meals down, and had lost 20lbs.

    September 19/1888, Sullivan's spiritual adviser was called, and family members made the journey to visit him.

    October 15/1888, Sullivan gets out of bed for the first time since he contracted the fever.

    December 07/1888, Sullivan issues a challenge to Killrain.

    December 21/1888, forfeits are covered.

    January 07/1889, articles are signed.

    July 08/1889, Sullivan defeats Killrain, and announces his retirement.

    July 11/1889 Sullivan is arrested.

    June 24/1890 the issue is finally resolved by Sullivan's conviction and fine.

    I don't see how Sullivan could have fought Jackson before 1891, or late 1890 at the earliest.
     
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    It must also be emphasized that Jackson was behind Killrain in the queue for a fight with Sullivan when he landed in America, and possibly others as well.

    A significant portion of the public thought that Killrain was the real champion, while Jackson was just a very promising contender.
     
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