A Hopkins Win over Pascal May Affect Heavyweight Landscape

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Get on the Povetkin level, man.

 

if bhop dominates for 2-3 more years...which he hasn't in a while.....he could be a top 40

 

Yes, I do believe that would be the perfect ending to a fine career although I can definitely see him holding on to the belt for a year or so...checking out the landscape...then setting up a mega PPV event against Cloud or Bute, but not Dawson...he knows that's too steep of a hill to climb at this stage in his career.

 

No ****ing way. BHop if he should beat Pascal should retire head high and start training fighters when he's ready.

 

If Hopkins beats Pascal there really would be nothing more for him to do in the sport! His legacy is secure, & a win over Pascal would only enhance that legacy.

He cannot beat a guy like David Haye, this is ridiculous!

There would be no better way than to go than beating Pascal & stamping your authority as the best LHW in the world!

 

Hopkins vs barret could be fun

 

Makes me sad, since I admire Pascal's heart, but I sincerely believe Hopkins will win. Well, I mean, I'm giving him a 65%+ chance.

Returning to the original post, though, I don't think Haye and Hopkins will ever fight. If they did, though, and Hopkins pulled it off,...



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Unfortunately Hopkins will not beat Pascal. I think Hopkin's career at light heavyweight has been grossly overrated. His best opponent he's faced was Calzaghe...and he wasn't even a true light heavyweight.

I expect Pascal to expose Hopkins and it shouldn't be a surprise to those who are aware of his opponents and able to put his wins in perspective. Pascal is too young, too motivated, and terribly underrated. This will be Hopkins first fight in front of a foreign crowd in like 15 years so I expect that to be a factor as well.

My prediction will be Pascal by MD. Not a complete shutout but will be the clear cut winner.

As for Hopkins facing Haye, I'd give Hopkins 6 rounds to last with Haye; no way could he bully his way with a natural cruiserweight/blown up heavyweight. To quote Max Baer from Cinderella man "It's no joke, people die in fairytales all the time."

/end rant

 

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All EMOTION and no Knowledge. atsch

 

Hopkins would not even stand a chance against Haye, come on ppl, lets be real here.

 

I'm not as opposed to people fighting these legends as some of you are. I know there is the safety issue but they have athletic commissions that *should* be competent enough to make the decision on whether a fight can go. But, the main problem is that right now is that the only stars in boxing are in the lower divisions. You have Mayweather and Pacman for sure. You also have coming up Saul Alvarez who looks to be a surefire star. Then Andre Ward and Julio Ceasar Chavez look to have potential to get there as well. For a guy like Haye to reach the level of superstar he has the potential to reach wins over names like Hopkins and Jones could do a lot for him with mainstream fans throw in the money from these fights and you can see where it is not that far fetched to happen.

 

Ok so let's break it down logically:

RJJ: Can we agree he has slid down alot quicker than Hopkins? With the exception of Lacey, RJJ hasn't looked good in any of his fights since Trinidad (and he was a blown up welter coming out of retirement), and has fought very questionable fighters since his comeback. Calzaghe dominated him after round one in 08 and was knocked out effortlessly in the first round by Green in 09.

Ornelas: Had only just moved up from middleweight. Is a decent B class fighter who lost to the best B class fighters he's faced i.e. Soliman and Rubio

Pavlik: Had only just moved up from middleweight. Very good wins against Taylor, and decent wins against B classers Lockett, Rubio, and Miranda. Obviously too small for light heavy and was unable to impose his usualy punching power. Has the height, but doesn't have the build like Hopkins. This was also two years ago

Calzaghe: Just moved up from supermiddleweight. Beat hopkins on his home turf and essentially confused him with his lateral movement and high workrate. Was too big for Hopkins to bully around in the ring.

Wright: A natural junior middleweight, who had just moved into middleweight. Far too small for light heavy and Hopkins took advantage to put a name on his resume. Was dominated by Williams in his last fight.

Tarver: Claim to fame KO RJJ, a very sound fighter with good wins on his resume, but even though he did manage to beat Johnson in the rematch, has not really impressed since that win and has been in decline. I am tempted to give Hopkins a pass since he himself had only just moved up from middleweight, but obviously from all the other alphabet champions around at the time Tarver was the easiest option...I would have even accepted Silvio Branco. This was four years ago.

Do these wins (except Calzaghe of course) sound so impressive now? And aside from his opponents, can you honestly say he's looked that good? He doesn't actually box, he tangles up arms, headbutts, low blows, clinches, and every other questionable tactic to do all he can to prevent a boxing match from actually occuring. I just don't see him getting away with these tactics against a younger guy, as physically big as him, with underrated boxing skills.

It's absolutely ridiculous that some people compare "hopkins genius" to that of Mayweather Jr's real boxing genius.

 

He looked terrible last 2 fights. He should already retire.

I mean he surprised everyone in the Pavlik fight but that was 2 years ago and he didnt look like dog **** the previous fights.

He doesnt have it left anymore, time has finally caught up with him. You have to consider how terrible RJJ and Ornelas are, Pascal is a far better fighter at this stage. If by some miracle Hopkins win he should retire, he has used up his nine lives and upsets by now. Going to heavyweight is a terrible move.

 

You have selective amnesia...how about Tarver, Wright and Pavlik(2 of the 3 were at catch weights but they're close enough to qualify)

 

See my above reply for why i think his light heavy career has been grossly overrated. Don't get me wrong, they're decent enough wins but not against the best of the true light heavies. Not even close. I don't have selective amnesia, perhaps you should actually watch the fights and do some research on the opponents and put it into an objective perspective