A huge diffeence between Oscar and Leonard

There are similarities here, in terms of the Golden Boy aspect, and personality, fanbase and the rest. There have been times in both men's careers when people have felt that these two have attempted to 'trick' the purists with the desired result being an enhanced legacy.

Before i get into this, i would like to say im not a fan of either, but am unbiased and respect both for what they did achieve in their respective careers.

Leonard

His preparation and approach to the Duran rematch has een questioned, i personally dont like to get into such subject, as a big Duran fan it comes cross as bitter! He won, but in the interest of this topic maybe a bit devious on the part of Leonard. Also, the strategy in the Hagler one, people aren't too happy with, but he never cheated, i personally had a draw.

Now telling the world he got titles at 168 and 175, that one annoys me.

So, Leonard has been a bit snakish at times, certainly looks as though he picked fights at times and under circumstances that suited him. But personally, i believe he the sport has always had a big place in his hart. Remember his initial retirement when he provided colour commentary? He was really insightful and good to listen to i thought.

At the end of the day, despite his shrewdness, he was a very top tier pugilist alongside history's elite.

De La Hoya

Now Oscar tricked the world into thinking he was of the same skillset as the sport's greats:deal

 

Just a fun thread really, not to be taken seriously as you can see i havent been fair or objective, though i do agree with it:good

 

Oh most definitely, well nowhere near the level he would have you believe. I dont Oscar has fooled many in this forum (the classic) though.

 

I used to say on Oscar threads that he was not a poor man's, but a poverty stricken man' Kid Gavilan!

I really question the greatness of Oscar, actually, for me personally, its beyond that now. I just think he's never looked great in a fight that he won against a great or top level fighter in his natural weight class. I never had him beating Pea, and i had Quartey beating him. Vargas fell short of greatness. He looked brilliant while smashing up shorter/smaller guys, who he was faster than. Imo his arsenal up close is overrated also, he looked great when he could smash guys up from a distance that suited him well, he just flurried the helll outta them.

I respect Oscar for what he did achieve though, and i would likely take him over most of the fighters that are a level below the top tier (in fantasy matchups), but i really dont favour him over any of history's elites, none.

And you are right in saying that in his younger days his willingness to mix it with the top guys was great, i always liked that of him. For the record i had him beating Trinidad by 2 points, but then again he couldnt convince everyone.

 

Good point

 

Thanks, man it looks like im becomin an Oscar hater these days! See how i keep throwing in stuff like 'i respect Oscar for what he did do', so that the reader will think im not hatin on him, but it looks blatant by the rest of the post!

Ha, seriously though, i do respect Oscar and your point about his willingness to mix it at the top in his younger days may be his biggest plus for me. The rest of my argument stands.

 

Or get stopped brutally!

Kidding!

 

Fire away!