A huge diffeence between Oscar and Leonard

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  1. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    how do you classic posters know so much about so many boxers?
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    First of all, if it's meant as a compliment, im flattered.

    Not sure on everyone, but mine comes from reading initially, that's what broadened my horizons. Once i had the knowledge of who to get footage of, i just started buying, got piles of videos from years ago, and books. Then when i got on the internet its just as if thw world is your oyster!

    I mean this when i say it, i have come across the greatest insights on ESC classic, this place has the best and most knowledgeable guys when it comes to analysing fighters, and in terms of analysing greatness and legacy, you can have your world yurned upside down here!
     
  3. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    i gotta start watching more fighters......
    I really do like the 70's heavyweights though.
     
  4. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I can see, thats a very good avatar you have there.

    Frazier your fave? There was a great video someone posted somewhere, a tribute to Frazier as a warrior, really good, you might have seen it on youtube.
     
  5. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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  7. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    aghh.... is esb messing up for you guys too?
     
  8. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Read.
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Many people may disagree but one area where I feel De La Hoya is better than Leonard is combinations. Thats it though. When Leonard put his punches together they were usually flurries. De La Hoya's combinations had more behind them even though he wasn't as powerful as Leonard. If you watch his punches in bunches against Duran in their rematch they were the same kind all the time. Short quick punches from both hands to the head. And against Hagler his 4-5 punch bursts were again short compact flurries. He did throw some nice combos at times, the finish against Lalonde was impressive. But when looking at their entire careers, De La Hoya was more varied in terms of his combinations. Just watch the Trinidad fight among others.
     
  10. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know if I agree with that, In recent times especially DLH's flurries have had very little on them. For example in the Mayweather fight they were light pitty patter punches where the crowd went wild when he threw them but they weren't effective.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    De La Hoya when fighting Mayweather was the same age as Leonard was against Norris. His combinations aren't what they were when he was in his prime. But no doubt about it IMO De La Hoya's combos when at his best were more varied than Leonards and just plain better.
     
  12. birddog

    birddog Active Member Full Member

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    Welcome to the forum Capon, lot's of good stuff here and good posters. This is a place to get acquainted with fighters from the past. I learn something new most every day here.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Watch the combination De La Hoya throws at 2.57, thats youtube time, not the round time, on this clip during the 9th round, and also a few seconds after it another combination to the body. It looks even better on a TV with clearer picture quality. Those are not shoe-shine flurries trust me. Solid punches downstairs and he smacks Trinidad with an uppercut, although the last punch to the head misses just. And the handspeed. It's a solid 4 punch combination in just over a second. If you compare those punches with Leonard's punches in bunches against Duran in the rematch and even the first Hearns fight, no contest.


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  14. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    Many of these guys have been here for years.
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The differance between them is that Leonard was better in every way possible.