A hypothetical question about George Foreman

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  1. BlackPanther(Comics)

    BlackPanther(Comics) Member banned Full Member

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    The question/questions are. If George Foreman would of had better trainers who actually taught him to throw his punches properly and Foreman didn't develop a huge ego. Do you think he would of beat Ali. I do. I think Foreman would of won a rematch which is why Ali ducked him.

    Lets say Foreman did beat Ali. Do you see any heavyweights beating him in the 70's?

    If Foreman would of retired undefeated in 70's do you think he would of came out of retirement?

    If Foreman still came out of retirement but let's say he was in great shape instead of being overweight. Let's say he weighed around 230-235 for all of his comeback fights. Do you still think Holyfield and Morrison would of beat him?

    If Foreman would fought Bowe, Lewis, and Tyson during his comeback like he wanted too do you think he would of beat them?
     
  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The words Ali and duck shouldn't remotely be in the same sentence.
     
  3. BlackPanther(Comics)

    BlackPanther(Comics) Member banned Full Member

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    Right so what you are saying is you are ******ed? Was that my question? Did I ask you did you think Ali ducked Foreman? I told you he did. Ali fought tons of people in rematches but yet chose to never fight Foreman again. But again was that my question?
     
  4. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you lived through those times and were able to understand the timeline you would know Ali did not duck a Foreman rematch.

    The great boxer which was Ali up to and including his bout with Frazier would beat any Foreman no matter how he threw his punches. The big issues in Zaire were the very small ring and heavily padded canvas which favored the puncher. (Punchers ring). Zack Clayton always said he never understood why Ali's management would have agreed to fight Foreman in such a small ring. He said the ring appeared to him as being 16x16.
     
  5. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali would beat foreman anytime
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Cant say If George would have beat Ali or not if say he started out under the guidance of an Eddie Futch Dundee ect. I really would have liked to have seen that though
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I don't think it was a question of his punching mechanics so much as his stunning lack of ring smarts, especially his inability to adapt and react to Ali's tactics and take advantage of the opportunities that Ali provided him. A smarter fighter blessed with his strength and power would have won that fight.
     
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  8. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know absolute $hit about boxing. Foreman had Archie Moore, Dick Saddler and later Gil Clancy as trainers in the 70's. All these guys were world class trainers dip$****. Ali never ducked a rematch with Foreman either.
    Now as for his comeback weight Foreman weighed 235 against Qawi, but said that was too light for him, and he needed to be heavier. George said himself in his comeback that a designer body is not neccisarily a boxer's body. If it was Frank Bruno and Mike Weaver would be undefeated.
    Why don't you read up on the sport, watch some fights, do some research before posting here you $hit for brains.
    God I'd stick my size 13 foot hip deep up your a$$ you're so dumb!
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
  10. brown-bomber

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  11. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    So 1981 Ali beats 1974 Foreman?
     
  12. superman1986

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    Foreman in an interview said Ali personally called him, as in called his home and offered him a rematch if he'd beat Ken Norton again. Foreman declined as he thought he was through with boxing.
     
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  13. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Not just beats but destroys, annihilates, renders unconscious

    de·mol·ish
    dəˈmäliSH/
    verb
    1. pull or knock down (a building).
      synonyms: knock down, pull down, tear down, bring down, destroy, flatten, raze (to the ground), level, bulldoze, topple; More
      • comprehensively refute (an argument or its proponent).
        "I looked forward keenly to demolishing my opponent"
        synonyms: destroy, ruin, wreck
     
  14. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's 100% percent true. I think it was in his autobiography By George. Ali said he was going to have to fight Norton again for a 4th time and couldn't beat him. Ali even invited Foreman to use his Deer Lake training camp to train. Foreman had lost to Jimmy Young though, and declined in order to become an ordained minister.
     
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  15. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good info ^.
     
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