Wilder v Fury 1 was an out and out cherry pick on the part of Wilder and Co. which very nearly ended in disaster for Wilder but for the hometown gift draw.... Fury righted that wrong in emphatic style in the rematch and the third match up would see the end of Wilder...... truth.
I've been wondering who does this match up favor the longer it goes. You appear to be implying that it could favor Wilder. I'm leaning that way too. So it might be in AJs best interest to get DW out of there early to mid rounds. But we also know that when AJ goes all out to finish an opponent he gases and, here's the key, does not recover quickly. If Ruiz could stop AJ... I think this is why we're seeing so many divergent views here.
Wilder has poor boxing fundamentals, is an injury ravaged 35 now, God knows how old he would be by the time the match was made. Wilders soul was snatched out by Fury, while AJ has put in two solid performances against 2 top 10-15 opponents and is improving all the time. I think AJ is a far more dedicated student of the game and will fight to a plan and can adjust ala Povetkin fight and AJ doesn't just have to rely on 1 punch. AJ's uppercut/right hand/left hook are all potentially fight ending punches and he actually uses the jab intelligently to maintain distance and to force his opponent to reset. Plus Wilder will be every bit as wary of AJ's power and ability to finish as AJ will of Wilders but, AJ has more tools to counter the Wilder threat. The Wilder who beat Stiverne 1 and Ortiz 1&2 no longer exists. Wilder is at the very tail end of his prime now, AJ is probably still to find his.
People thinking Wilder can replicate what Ruiz did DKSAB. What Ruiz did was counter Joshua while Joshua was looking to take him out, with the left hook, which Joshua is definitely prone too as seen vs Whyte, Wlad, Povetkin and of course Ruiz. Thing is Wilder isn't known for his left hook, his money punch is the right hand and no way Wilder gets into and exchange like Ruiz did as that's not his style, he goes defensive when faced with aggression, he doesn't look to trade and counter. So Wilder isn't going to be countering an aggressive Joshua with a left hook like so many others have done. What he will try to do is beat Joshua to the punch and land the right hand. Problem he has is Joshua will be looking for the right hand as there is no other threat from Wilder and Wilder doesn't disguise his right hand well, even if he lands it, Joshua will have braced himself for it. Wlad hit him with a monster right hand and he disguises his right far better than Wilder and Joshua still got up and beat him. Wilder may have the power to KO Joshua, but he simply doesn't have the tools to land it. Joshua in contrast has the power and all the tools to KO Wilder.
I agree with most of this. However, Pulev did land that right hand 2 or 3 times clean on AJs face. I think AJ takes a right hand far better than a left hook to the temple.. That said Wilder is far more explosive/faster/reachier than Pulev... But then again does Wilder have the ability to land the right hand on Joshua.. Imo yes, as he's landed it on pretty much everyone including Fury in both fights. But like you said if AJ pressures him and puts him on the backfoot will Wilder let the right hand go. Can't rmemeber but didn't Wilder somewhat land that right hand on the back foot against Ortiz and Spzillka??
Relax, I like the humble BB better, the one that referred to himself as an idiot in #44. LOL Agree w/much of what you wrote. However what you're omitting is as important as what you included. Ruiz didn't stop AJ in the 3rd. He came back after being dropped himself and caught AJ w/that left hook to the temple. Sure that's not what DW will do to AJ. Four rounds later and after a few more offensive bursts from Ruiz, is when he stops AJ. AJ does not have good recuperative ability after he gasses or is hurt. Anyone that denies that DKSAB. All I'm saying is if AJ gets dropped by Wilder and/or gasses trying to take him out, AJ will have to be carefull for the next 2-3 rounds until he gets his second wind. Given that DW is more than likely edging past his prime and AJ is at or appraoching his prime, I favor AJ. Much depends on what Wilder has when and if they fight. The longer time passes, it favors AJ.
Joshua annihilates that glass jawed fraud. ONE of those uppercuts he landed on Pulev puts that joke in a coma.
Look, as a person and sportsman I think AJ is better. That's not what we're analyzing here. First off you make it look like Wilder is ready for assisted living We don't know what he has left. Let's break down those performances. 1) Against an obese Ruiz that showed up ~20# fatter than the fat Ruiz that stopped AJ. And AJ boxed carefully to a UD. 2) Wlad was 39 1/2 y/o and stopped a younger Pulev in about half the time it took a prime AJ to stop a past it Pulev. In the above perspective I'd say "solid" is getting generous. If AJ lost either of these fights he would have some serious rebuilding to do. Generally agree w/the above, except I think Wilder is more dangerous than you think. Unless Fury really did ruin him.
Difference is Pulev is sneakier when throwing the right hand, while Wilder usually telegraphs it by cocking the right hand or lifting his lead foot. Yes your memory is correct. He dropped Ortiz with a counter right but Ortiz was reaching in stupidly and over balancing, he was asking to be countered by throwing 3 short jabs and then missing a left straight by a mile against a Wilder who was already cocked to throw the right hand. Joshua doesn't and wouldn't overreach like that as he isn't 6'3" like Ortiz, plus he's not a southpaw and open to the right hand in the same way Ortiz is. And yes Spilka was KO'ed by a right, but Wilder's feet were set as Szpilka threw a crazy wide left hook and Wilder simply beat him to the punch. Also again Szpilka again only 6'3" and forced to take risks to reach Wilder and again a southpaw and open to right hands which as I stated before isn't the punch Joshua is really prone to, it's the left hook that usually has Joshua in trouble.
Lol, sometimes I take it too far with the language I admit. True Joshua does have issues with gassing. He's usually been able in the past to just get on his bike and take a few rounds to recover and come back to win like vs Whyte and Wlad. But I don't think he ever fully recovered from the left hook counter and stylistically Ruiz was problematic for him, usually Joshua turns fights his way by stepping on the gas and taking it too his opponent and blowing them out but that strategy vs Ruiz just opened him up to be countered more. Only way I see Wilder dropping Joshua is if Joshua gasses himself out like you say and is then vulnerable. But I think we saw vs Pulev a Joshua that was very aware of that and who purposefully in the 4th didn't try and stop Pulev like he would of done earlier in his career. I think from now on it's going to take a fighter to force Joshua to fight above a comfortable pace, he isn't going to empty his gas tank voluntarily like before and Wilder just isn't that style of fighter to press consistently, he's patient, reactive, often doing little in a round and getting out boxed and pushed back while he waits for his opponent to leave an opening or tire enough for him to land a shot and end it.
Joshua with an early ko. People think “oh AJ has a weak chin so wilder ko’s him” yea ok as if wilder isn’t packing pure glass, also how exactly is the guy with zero boxing skill supposed to land first?
Seriously, Joshua is no George Chuvalo to be sure - but compared to Wilder he is. Wilder hits the deck against guys like Dustin Nichols and Harold Sconiers, and was stopped by the lighthitting Fury. It takes decent , top level fighters who can crack a bit to put Joshua on the canvas.