A jab to beat Mayweather??? LOL

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  1. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really a 4 devision champion 140, 147, 154 and 160!! Cotto jab has busted many a fighter face up, because he steps into his jab making it very stiff.

    Cotto come behind a high guard proceeded by battering ram jab.

    Oscar jab is a lot more educated because he able to hook of the jab with great effectiveness..

    Both fighter weakens agains floyd is both fighter are converted south paws..

    Meaning the following
    Oscar because he is a convert does not have a lethal right hand, and because of that Floyd didn't any worries from oscar right side.

    Cotto on the other hand has good right hand but he has too hook it, which Floyd see coming a mile away..

    So once took both fighter lead hand away, their option for offense where limited!!
     
  2. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: I can't even take you serious !
     
  3. Real-G

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    This part I would agree with, because Cotto is a converted south paw.. but that also mean like most converted south paw, his jab and hook are very strong from the lead hand.
     
  4. Windigo

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    Of course not. You are a one dimensional. Let me guess you have limited boxing experience you wanted to emulate Floyd and Toney. But you got your ass kicked because their style isn't what works for your gifts and you didn't approach the fight game with any serious respect.

    Anyone as dumb as you are probably got his ass kicked when he tried to use it because you didn't recognize it's weaknesses.
     
  5. Real-G

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    You mad bro !! :lol: the phyl shell is not my style .. But if you are a true student of the game you study all style not just your own.
     
  6. TBomb 25

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    True which means his jab is more thuding than pistonic...remember speed is what bothers Floyd most....
     
  7. Real-G

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    True but his jab is punishing nun the less!
     
  8. TBomb 25

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    a optimal jab for the job to beat Floyd is a Holmes, Greg Page, Hearns type jab....these jabs were long thudding and pistonic and they had great work rate with it. But of course Hearns was the only 1 of that generation who fought at WW....in Floyds era there none of those type of jabs, the jab thats close was Forrest.....but him and Floyd missed dances because i think Floyd was at Lightweight then.....
     
  9. TBomb 25

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    Its actually his 2nd best power punch.....
     
  10. Real-G

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    I well to be honest I don't think length has anything to do with it .. All of this fighters had educated left hands.. The could hook off the jab to the head or body.. And because all of these fighters had Ko power in the right it makes it dangerous for a philly shell fighter to stand in front of a fighter with that kind of skill..

    I can see Heans working the jab all night, then faint a jab and slam a right down the pipe or faint a hook off the jab and then sneak a right right in..

    These fighter had too many tools in their lead hands for a philly style fighter lay back as floyd does.
     
  11. TBomb 25

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    I do think length is a plus the leverage factor, and reality is reality Floyd is kinda short for a Welter....i guess those are extreme kryptonite examples for Floyds style Camacho had a good jab.....of this generation for a smaller fighter Paulie does to well thats all he has. You just seperated a few things on a jab education its kind like eating frenchfies without Katchup......its what comes after the jab is what makes it dangerous and unsettling for a fighter...and those extreme examples of the jab thats killing you enough and then the whole band after that, fortunately for Floyd those fighters dont exist right now unless he's gonna fight young Terrance Crawford which is doubtful.....
     
  12. Real-G

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    Buy the way if Floyd or pac would have fought in the 80s era, I doubt ether fighter would have fought over the 140 mark ... Too many skilled fighter ..

    Even the lower tier fighter like mark Brealand, Donald Curry just to name a few would be too much for small guys like them to compete for a extended period of time.
     
  13. TBomb 25

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    True.....Curry, Starling, Honeygan, Simon Brown....they were stellar and then you had the 3 Hearns lites with whicked jabs and big right hands Breland, McCroy, and Bumphus and even Floyds uncle, im thinking they would stay at LW away from Pryor and Arguello to.....
     
  14. Real-G

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    Very true !!
     
  15. TBomb 25

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    Prime Livingston Bramble would have been interesting at LW they would have had to pry that title away from the PitBull....the Lightweight Holyfield before Holyfield...lol