A Joe Louis Manuever...

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I have not seen any other fighters with the strength and skill to do what Joe Louis can do. And that is to control his opponents hands. He is a master of just swiping your hand away from your face leaving it open for a bomb. At first I thought why don't more fighters use this tactic? But I realized the incredible strength it takes to do something like that. To control a professional heavyweight boxers hands, and moving them at will, requires the similar contrasting strength levels of a man and his son. (Exaggeration, but seriously)


    Have you guys seen any other fighters do this? Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?

    Think of the Braddock KO. Louis literally punches Braddocks glove all the way to the side and then connect with his knockout right hand that leaves the Cinderella Man on the canvas for minutes.


    There has to have been some other fighter who has used this technique. Can you guys think of anyone?
    Can you think of any other fighters who have a unique skill like that?
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's actually illegal I think, can anyone confirm that?

    You can see Wlad using a slightly different version against Iggy.
     
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  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Tyson also does it against this guy here

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c23kvwvK5cA[/ame]

    Notice how his jab or left hand pulls that shell apart at :40?

    As for legality I don't know, because it doesn't seem that different from the Andre Ward/Jack Johnson/Armstrong wing chun sticky hands inside fighting and its VERY easy to disguise as a punch.
     
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  4. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    Winky Wright did some unusual stuff like this with his right.
     
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  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles did this quite a bit against Louis himself...and he was very. very slick with it. He would push Louis' hands low, get his punches off...then get out of range. Very aggravating guy to fight with...Knew all the tricks.
     
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  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Avoiding,,,,,,,,,good black fighters!!

    Picking on 'slow' white fighters that were shop-worn or beat-up.
    Gus Dorazio,,,,,
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Any one particular black fighter who came to the #1 contender's spot that you feel Louis ducked, Duce?
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Max Schmeling somtimes did this.
     
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  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Il Duce is starting to rival Seamus in beeing bitter. :lol:
     
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  10. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just teasing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Joe was 'The Man',,,,, before Sonny Liston was 'The Man'

    The best 1-2 puncher ever!

    I knew McGrain would re-surface, those Scottish submarines have to come up for
    'air' sometime.
     
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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Gus Dorazio had a win over Lem Franklin, who was probably the best black contender who was active during Louis's pre war title reign.
     
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  12. combatesdeboxeo

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  13. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lee Q. Murray
    Turkey Thompson

    Those guys were much better than Jack Roper, Tony Musto, Gus Dorazio or Red Burman.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Jesus Christ, don't you ever shut the **** up?

    Every single thread, there you are, telling people they're idiots and that they have no idea about boxing. How is he, in any way, comparing Johnson to Braddock? Some of us are interested in that type of thing, you just seem to be interested in making trouble.

    If you can't calm yourself, perhaps you should go back to YouTube. I'd be astonished if you could find three posters who would consider you had contributed anything but bad temper to this forum.
     
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  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A 190 pound glass jaw who holds the unfortunate distinction of having taken probably the most powerful right hand Tyson ever threw flush on the chin.
     
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