A juicin J's chin has zero chance vs Deontay's right

Fury was floored but not hurt due to his own ego. Wilder was floored and saved by the bell against a featherfist. He may have been greener but his defence still has the same holes and Joshua won't have any problem finding them.

 

Though I see your point and broadly agree (I'd nuance it to say that he was dropped in a firefight scenario by a kind of shot that Wlad doesn't throw, and that he was stunned but not badly hurt), few were accepting that logic prior to November 28, 2015. Fury had been floored heavily by nobodies in the past and Wlad was going to demolish him inside 6. Most observers saw no shades of grey.

He's not unhittable, but nor is AJ. Wilder is certainly cannier now than he was back then. And he has will and raw instinct, precious (and somewhat unteachable) attributes when it comes to surviving dire straits in the ring. That's not to say that he can't be stopped, of course, as anyone can be stopped in a certain set of circumstances. I just don't see Joshua presenting that set of circumstances. I think Wilder will survive whatever he has to, and hurt Joshua more than Joshua hurts him. I say this with a certain pang of regret, because it would strip some lustre from what is potentially the biggest fight ever to take place on British shores, ie. Fury-Joshua.

 

Doesn't matter how you try and word it, Wilder will not survive Joshua. Wilder has shown repeatedly that he lacks a good chin.

 

This is the first time in ages on here that a new account has joined the site and not been an absolute mess of a poster. So welcome, or welcome back if your of an old account.

I see your point RE AJ's vulnerabilities. His stamina issue is there to see and that's certainly something Wilder doesn't have. I'm still having chin doubts on Wilder though. He was rattled by Molina a couple of times which isn't a good sign. In fact Molina had way more success in that fight than he should have, as did indeed the likes of Washington. AJ was rocked by Whyte too, but in his first real test that was a big counter left he walked into and - to be fair - recovered from.

In terms of one punch power Wilder is no doubt the bigger of the two. It's easy to forget that outside of that Brazilian dude I don't think AJ has any 1 punch KO's. For me his punches will be too straight for Wilder and I think he is going to feel them big time. Outside of a long jab which he can utilise quite well, Wilder's technique is putrid for a world champion. Though AJ isn't quite the polished article himself in this regard I think he has much more variety in his arsenal than what Wilder is used to.

The point remains - and I think this was one of your points anyway - that ultimately there is a lot we still don't now about Wilder purely because he hasn't been tested in certain areas. I have this like 70-30 in favour of Joshua.

 

Wilder has power but he's packing enough glass to open a wine bottling plant. He windmills on Joshua at his peril.

 

We'll find out soon enough, if we're lucky. Should you be proven correct, I shall be gentleman enough to commend your discernment on the matter (and I hope to find you equally magnanimous, should the opposite scenario materialize).

 

Thank you, sir. (New poster, but I've been reading here on and off for years.)

A very reasonable argument in Joshua's favor. I appreciate the tolerance for differing views.

 

when exactly has Windmiller ever gone all out in the first round against any of his opponents unless he's had a huge physical advantage? Windmiller is nothing more than a ring bully. He fights with an awful amount of fear in him, hence the windmilling antics, hitting opponents when they're down and having to be dragged off his prostrate opponent by the referee. His antics after beating the overweight, poorly conditioned, non motivated, only there for the pay check Stiverne were ****ing hilarious. It was as if he'd just drilled AJ, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker and Tyson Fury with the same punch!

He has no class, no respect for his opponents and no dignity. He contradicts himself constantly and uses other fighters names in a obvious act to raise his own profile.

 

Ohhhh, this one is gonna be good. I'm sticking with Wilder by epic T/KO.

 

^ Never before have two British fighters met on British soil with all the heavyweight marbles (and two undefeated records) on the line. That is a unique happening, one which would be recorded as the biggest boxing event in British history by far. And I believe Wilder will derail it if he and Joshua meet later this year.

Taking the Joshua-Wilder matchup in isolation, I'm inclined to pull for the Alabama wild card. But the prospect of that historic Fury-Joshua showdown makes things more complicated.

 

Cause Wilder struggled badly fighting a pensioner. The Yankee Doodlers are struggling with the fact that the #1 heavyweight and current boxing superstar is British. The chip on their shoulder goes bigger by the day.

 

Wilder has better stamina than AJ but he slows the pace to a crawl looking for a counter that it probably won't matter.