A knockdown can be evened out by simply winning a round?

That's right...in the first JMM/Pac fight, JMM would have lost that fight had the judges been able to score the first round 10-6 for the 3 knockdowns.

Good rule...a 10-6 round is too big of a hole to climb out of.:good

 

From the California State Athletic Commission:

§ 357. Method Of Scoring.
Judges shall score all contests and determine the winner through the use of the ten point must system. In this system the winner of each round receives ten points and the opponent a proportionately less number. If the round is even, each boxer receives ten points. No fraction of points may be given.
At the termination of the round or contest, the referee shall pick up the cards of the judges. The referee shall then deliver the cards to the commission representative assigned to check and total them. The majority opinion shall be conclusive and if there is no majority then the decision shall be a draw unless otherwise determined by the referee or commission representative. When the commission representative has completed verifying and totaling the scores, the ring announcer shall be informed of the decision and shall announce the decision.
NOTE: Authority cited: Section 18611, Business and Professions Code. Reference: Sections 18640 and 18734, Business and Professions Code.
HISTORY:
1. Change without regulatory effect of NOTE (Register 87, No. 5).
2. Amendment of section heading and section filed 10-30-95; operative 10-30-95 pursuant to Government Code section 11343.4(d) (Register 95, No. 44).

 

Official scores should make it clear how you score a round in a 10pt must system where the fighter that won the round was knocked down.

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ys-scorecards111409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns[/url]

 

these are the WBA rules - which, I believe, abide by the three knockdown rule.

Under the WBA rules, the Pac/JMM fight would have been over after round 1 due to the 3 knock downs.

 

Technically correct.

But in practical terms, not really.

If A knocks B down, A is usually given the round 10-8.

If B happens to score a KD of his own, then its back to being a 10-9 round for the better of the two, or 10-10 if they are seen as equal.

It is most unusual to see the knocked down fighter given a 9-9.

Calzaghe won the first round against Hopkins (not by a huge margin, but he did win it quite clearly.

However, together with the three judges, and most fans, bernard's as well as Joe's, I scored it 10-8 for Hopkins.

 

10 point must. MUST... 10-9 PAC (best Cotto could've gotten)

 

Someone must always get 10 points in a round unless there is a foul.


Knockdowns are NOT always worth and extra point in a round. though that is the generally accepted rule, it is not mandated.


I scored the early round in Holyfield- Moorer 10-10 when Moorer suffered the flash knockdown because he dominated every second of the rest of the round.

I scored the 3rd 10-9 for Pacman, becuase I though Cotto won the majority of the round, but he did get knocked down, and didn't dominate, so the end effect, in my view was that Pacman had a better round.

Ironically, I scored the 9th, 10-8 for Pac man without a KD, because at no point did I think Cotto was competitive at any point in the round.


Keith

 

thanks, important part in bold. The winner has to take 10 (barring deductions), with the knock-down, common sense means it was a 10-8 round to Manny.

 

They were allowed to score a 10-6 round, the 10-7 max scoring is only if the WBA belt is on the line and not for unification which the IBF belt was on the line as well in that fight.

 

One question, doesn't all fights in Nevada mandate the use of the Unified Rules?

 

consider the fact that you can have a 10-8 round without a kd. now have the fighter who is getting battered that round score a flash kd. do u give him the round based on the kd? there is your 10-10 scenario with a kd being scored.
and even in this scenario i score it 10-9 for the fighter who was kd.

 

I agree

 

So the winner MUST have 10 points, UNLESS there are points deducted.

Does a knock-down constitute a point deduction in this regard?

If so, a 10-9 round where the winner gets knocked down (and knock-downs are considered a deducted point under the 10 Points Must System) becomes a 9-9 round.

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Knockdowns are not considered a point deduction.

Point deductions are fouls.