A knockdown does not automatically mean a 10-8 score

9-3? Are you a fury fan? Did you lose money or something? You would have to give EVERY close round to Fury to get your card. I had it 114-114 and think the British judge got it right. The other 2 cards seem to equally give every close round to the opposite guy. I don’t see either card, but no robbery in my mind unless you were biased going in

 

I agree. Can anyone name some examples of a 9-9 round with a knockdown?

 

The first two rounds were close. You can score it either way. Apart from that every round was relatively easy to score. 8x 10-9 Fury and 2x 10-8 Wilder.

 

Already did scroll up

 

I had wilder up 3-2 after 5...perhaps it is difficult if you are a fury or wilder fan...as someone with no dog in this fight (I left impressed by both guys who respect each other more than thier crybaby fans do), I think there were several close rounds. I stand by my 114-114

 

Yes 10-9 Wilder

Wilders 2 punches in a round otherwise dictated by Fury should not constitute a 2pt margin

 

Nope. Not a Fury fan and I’m American. He did make me a fan after this fight though. Both Floyd Mayweather and Andre Ward had Fury winning wide. Wilder can’t box. How did you get to 114-114? With two knockdowns? Two get the draw you have to score the bout 7-5 for Fury. That produces a 113-113 card. Unless you are scoring even rounds which most judges don’t do. Some people scored the bout 10-2. 9-3 of 8-4 is acceptable. Wilder lost and he knew it.

 

Every round was close and he scored a KD in two...they were 10/8 rounds.


Why is it no one's talking about how if Tyson really stole a round by punch count and got way ahead that too can be a 10/8 round without anyone hitting the canvas?

It wasn't close enough for Wilder to get a 10/8 on a KD nor was any round so clearly won by Tyson that Wilder lost more points without hitting the canvas by even the most ardent Fury supporter's card? Something does not compute. Either you're claiming a handful of punches offsets a 10/8 KD or you're claiming Fury landed so many more punches in those rounds it could have been scored a 10/8 for Fury if Wilder didn't knock him down. Both are pretty absurd. Fury hardly stayed ahead of Wilder on the punch count and got KD. That's a 10/8 if any is.



It isn't Wilder this forum is bias against it is pygmachia, punching, sword and shield boxing. It's like you guys can't even see it. Fury skirted barely ahead on punch count which is why Wilder got 10/8s and Fury didn't, duh, you all know this. If Wilder was boxing you wouldn't even argue about it but because he's using a style that's hardly ever used let's all pretend like those 10/8 warrant explaining 10/8. It's like talking about Marciano or something. We'll pretend boxing has different rules every time someone comes who doesn't play exactly like everyone else from the past did.

 

I can't see that and i am not biased.

Wilder could be 2-0 up after 2, yes, i agree, but Fury won Rds. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 comfortably. Rd. 9 was a 10-8 Wilder round, Rd. 10 was close but Fury, Rd. 11 was a clear Fury round and Rd. 12 was obviously a 10-8 Wilder round.

I already said it.

I do not think a draw is a ROBBERY here. I would not say this.

But two things: I think Fury won and one thing i can say for sure is that Wilder definitely did not won the fight. No ****ing way.

 

Hmmm well like I say until last night I thought a knockdown was nailed on 10/8;only scenario I could see reversing this would be if Fury scored a knockdown in the same round.
I think you’re reaching here as Wilder often gets outboxed and often wins by late KO which he was a second away from achieving,ain’t no way a judge is gonna deprive a guy his 10/8 round just cause the other guy survives the KO and gets back on the front foot.

 

Great post this as Wilder often gets outboxed and always finds these late knockouts/knockdowns,it’s how he does things and as such should get every bit of credit for it.
I was rooting for Fury but let’s have it right if this was someone else fighting this style he wouldn’t get the same hype he does now,that backhand jab thing is an illegal punch for a start.
If Fury gets points for spoiling and flicking out a backhand jab then Wilder should get points for being the one trying to push the action and at least looking for the knockout.
Personally I think this fight was as much a nailed on draw as you’re ever likely to see.

I see CST80 had it a draw on his own card before the decision?

 

Let’s accept that a knockdown would normally come from the dominant fighter and after the knock down the victim is almost always in survival mode, in that case 10-8 is justifiable.

Take a similar situation but a 2nd & possibly 3rd knockdown happens then a 10-7 round is possible because the dominance is such that it’s warranted.

If you accept that second scenario then you have to accept that a fighter who suffers a knock down totally against the flow of the round and who then gets off the canvass to dominate the remainder of the round can be justified in making it a 10-9 round.

A knockdown cannot be judged in isolation it has to be judged within the context of the round in question.

This is actually the rule as I am aware of it.

 

Lol you are correct...my math was bad...when I scored round 8 for Fury I scored it 10-9 but added 11-10 on the far side (an embarrassment for a math nerd lol). My card read 78-76 Fury when it should have been 77-75..yes my card is 113-113 lol.

Thanks for pointing it out

 

Spot on.
I have had this conversation before and commentary often just say it's a 10/8 round when it doesn't have to be