A legendary fighter who never had a redemption moment?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Can you think of any great fighter that never had a redemption moment or a defining comeback?
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    One for me is Lennox Lewis .
    Whilst he did have a comeback of sorts, against Mccall and Rahman, These were more like corrections that he had to deal with to move on.
     
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  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Jeffries
     
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  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    GGG.
     
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  5. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson, the real one.

    I mean LL was late in the day for him and even a rematch at that point 'might' not have redeemed him, though I feel it should have happened...

    alot of people will start from the Douglas fight and certainly from Holyfield onward, but up to both of these men & after, I'm not sure who else Tyson could have fought and he beat all of them.

    a Iron Mike vs Lennox Lewis fight should have happened sooner & rematched as well 'even' if Tyson would have won it, therefore affording LL chance at redemption too.

    on a personal level, I wanted Haugan to beat the Paz, because that hurt him more than his loses to Camacho & JCC which were more the expected outcome.
     
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  6. Ike

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    There are several, one of which is Marcel Cerdan. The French champion lost the world title to LaMotta (his only career defeat due to retirement) and shortly before his rematch with Jake, he died in a plane crash.
     
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  7. jabber74

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    Holmes. Even though he could still fight during his comebacks, couldn't regain the title ala George Foreman.
    Never really became a "beloved" or "forgiven" fighter like George did. Had he changed his attitude/personality, and regained the title to boot, it would have changed things between him and the public and his legacy.
    He would have exorcised all that crap that culminated when he lost to Spinks and he blew his fuse at the media, fought publicly with the Marciano family, ("Rocky couldn't carry my jockstrap!").

    He almost had somewhat of a redemption moment when he beat Mercer, but didn't quite get there.
     
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  8. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Mike was badly overmatched. That would've been true if they had fought earlier.
     
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  9. Yorbals

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    Aren’t there quite a lot of those? Great Fighters who won the title , had a few defences and lost it and never regained another title , if that’s what you mean there are lots surely ?
     
  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    No it's redemption.
    Not regaining a title as such.
     
  11. Yorbals

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    Cuevas never really redeemed himself from the Hesrns ko.
    Hamed never redeemed himself from the Barrera loss.
     
  12. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He beat Nielsen but was robbed. If the IBO counts for anything, Holmes should have been the oldest world title holder ever at age 48. If that would have counted as a bit of redemption, he got screwed out of it. Because he whooped Nielsens ass.

    he did have flashes of losing the salt when in front of a mic in his senior career. Check out his interview after the Holyfield fight. Pure class, he did nothing but compliment Holyfield, say how great Holyfield was, etc.
     
  13. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he avenged his only two losses, stopped the next generation in his last fight. There was nothing TO redeem. He’d done all he could.
     
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  14. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there was a time where Tyson would have steamrolled Lewis, due to how they developed. Tyson peaked real quick, Lewis took a long time to reach his. Despite being in the same era, there was never a point where a prime vs prime fight was possible because their primes didn’t coincide.
     
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  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    The Mercer win and the strong performance against Holyfield did make him a semi-popular ex-champ of sort .. He'd never be Foreman, he lacked the power and the charisma ..
     
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