A Lightheavy That Could Defeat Foreman or Liston??

So you don’t pick Muhammad Ali to beat Foreman?

The same Ali who lost to Norton, who was massacred by Foreman.

You see the problem there?

 

If Tyson can psyche out Spinks, then I would think Liston and Foreman do the same.

Charles is the one I'd give the best shot, but I wouldn't favor him over Foreman or Liston.

 

You are certainly brutal on the trolls of late mate. Keep up the great work.

 

Eyes wide shut.

Did we not notice that Machen himself didn’t fight a clean fight? Holding excessively, holding and hitting, hitting on the break, pushing and shoving etc.

Machen had to fight like that…..to survive. In an open and clean fight, which Liston was clearly framing for, Eddie gets bombed out by the mid rounds.

Of course, several years later, Eddie jumped on the lineament bandwagon wagon in the wake of Ali’s accidental blinding in Miami.

Liston’s performance vs Machen actually highlighted another positive strand to Liston overall abilities - just another fight that recommends Sonny’s ATG status.

 

Long sigh for you. Notice that all the people “liking” your comment just happen to not like me. You’re missing the point and looking silly.

 

Michael Spinks had the mobility....

 

Coming from you that is a great compliment.I will do my best good Sir !

 

Long sigh returned by me.What bearing does your popularity ( or lack of it ) have
in this discussion ? I am merely pointing out the flaws ( of which there are so many )
in your constant,inaccurate slurs directed against the great Sonny Liston.

 

I referred to the ''paper,scissors,stone'' issue concerning Muhammed Ali,Joe Frazier
and George Foreman in a following post.
Obviously the same would apply to Ken Norton.

 

The light heavy would have to be looking for a points win and not to trade at all with them. He'd have to take off like a hare everytime they opened up. Jones has been mentioned already. Calzaghe and Bivol are other two possibles. I don't think I'd favour either but its in the realm of possibility that they'd be elusive enough and land enough pitty pat stuff to win at the end.

 

Aside from Ali (obviously), I think Ezzard Charles would have a good chance at both. Maybe Archie. Maybe..............Spinks.

 

Ha,ha,ha, Usyk couldn't #@#$ up Derek Chisora

 

Foreman was slow as a snail, Usyk will box his ears off.

 

Ezzard and Archie are the choices we might expect some solid debate on. At least "solid" in the sense that there would be less speculation and more material to assemble both sides' arguments from. They fought close to Liston's time, and are universally regarded as among the finest lightheavyweights to ever box. Nor can Ezzard in particular simply be given the back of one's hand and ignored. He actually won the title and kept it awhile. And Moore did well, too, although not quite as well as Ezzard.