A little advice for me on my Greb book

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by klompton, Oct 13, 2011.


  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    It's not about spelling , it's about thoughts on where to trim or reshape ... when you're so close to a body of work fresh, trusted eyes are invaluable ...
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Did you get my PM mate? Would appreciate your advice if you get a spare five minutes :good
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    My sister works as an editor, and has had a number of books published. This is what she had to say on the subject.

    Most publishing houses are reluctant to publish biographies that run to two volumes for marketing reasons, the exception being for figures who are universaly known such as Winston Churchill. You might have problems selling the concept of a two part biography about a boxer who is only known to specialists in the field.

    Some pulishers do not like longer books, becauswe of the cgreater costs associated with printing them. There are however publishers who specialise in books of greater lenghth that will be printed in comparativley smal numbers. Such a publisher would be much more receptive to what you are offering them than most.

    I do not know if you have located a publisher yet, but the publisher is likley to impose the format in which the book is published. They will more than likley push for a single volume, but the right publisher would not be unduly concerned about the book being long.
     
  4. Greatest1942

    Greatest1942 New Member Full Member

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    It was a punch in all probability, the book you read, probably chose it sources very well...

    Even Tunney himself wasn't sure whether it was a blow or butt?

    "In the first exchange of the fight, I sustained a double fracture of the nose which bled continually until the finish. Toward the end of the first round, my left eyebrow was laid open four inches. I am convinced that the adrenalin solution that had been injected so softened the tissue that the first blow or butt I received cut the flesh right to the bone.

    In the third round another cut over the right eye left me looking through a red film. For the better part of twelve rounds, I saw this red phantom-like form dancing before me. I had provided myself with a fifty-per-cent mixture of brandy and orange juice to take between rounds in the event I became weak from loss of blood. I had never taken anything during a fight up to that time. Nor did I ever again."

    I think if Klompton wrote the same as you read previously it would't have been right.
     
  5. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Grin!
     
  6. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As long as you don't mis-spell Greb's name on the cover...... don't forget a cover... they are also important.
     
  7. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. What makes a history book or biog bad most of the time isn't necessarily lack of research, but bias.

    I remember a prof of mine many years ago--who had written award-winning biogs--telling my class that what a biographer most has to guard against is falling in love with his subject and losing all objectivity.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    This would be my opinion also. As hard as it may be to cut pieces of the story that are interesting, it's better to cut some stuff out and have it successfully published, than not have it published/read at all due to marketing reasons.
     
  10. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    for evidence of klomptons handling of history, events, charactors and evidence, please go to the darcy vs greb thread. in this thread he denies evidence, defames good reputable men, tells outright lies, and shows a total lack of respect for history of those involved in it.

    after a long thread of slander, here is the page where klompton was finally outed as the scum liar he is. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346909&page=24