A look at Duran’s record at Welter

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  1. JLP1978

    JLP1978 Member Full Member

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    Philly, here are my scores.

    I have it 8 round to 7 for Leonard. I always give Duran 2-4. I always give Leonard 5-7 and 14, 15. The hardest round is the 1st. I usually score that for Leonard but today I gave that to Duran because I felt he had better effective aggression.


    D 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 12
    L 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 14, 15

    I recognize that this is perhaps astonishing but I have consistently scored it for Leonard and I feel like I am a robbing it when I don’t. With that said I have no problem with this being scored for Duran and it is testament to his greatness to perform like he did in Montreal.

    The thing against Leonard is he looks green, his trunks look funny and he looks a little goofy with his body language. He doesn’t look confident and like we are used to seeing with Leonard. Still when he plants his feet and throws he is banging inside just as much as Duran...Duran just looks cooler and more assertive
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That’s cool, bro thanks for sharing. I have really enjoyed your posts despite disagreeing wildly with this scorecard. I doubt we will change each other’s minds on this fight. But, while there are very few who score this for Leonard, there are a couple who I respect (you included) who see it otherwise. Personally I am not a fan (but certainly an appreciator) of either guy, so I don’t have a dog in this fight either way lol.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey cheers for the expansion HG. We see it a bit different but i do understand where you are coming from even if we don't quite align. Hearns did have his flaws (which is why he isn't rated higher than where he is) but very few would ever be able to take advantage of them imo, certainly at 147 and 154. You had to get past his strengths which many a fine fighter simply couldn't do. I also think he took quite a bit out of Hagler when they fought.

    Personally i can't rank Tito, Oscar or Curry over him. Curry looked great for a while and fought at a superb level but his loss to Honeyghan (and i do accept the excuses) was ugly comparative to Hearns historical effort against the consensus #2 Welter. Tito has longevity there but there wasn't an immense amount going on. Respect your view tho mate.
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally agree with your Hearns analysis
     
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  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually rate Duran higher on a welterweight list than a lot of people here seem to do ..... but I rate Leonard lower. I'd probaly have Leonard in the #5 to #9 range, and Duran in the #15 to #20 range, on an all-time welterweight list.
     
  6. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    Do you expect anyone to beat Leonard up? Duran the blown up lightweight beat him close but clear.
     
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  7. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    Duran landed nearly all the heavier punches in Montreal.
    Leonard tried to weasel himself some rounds with his and Dundee's 10 seconds bull**** but it didn't haopen for him.
     
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  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2nd greatest welter ever after Robinson and from Brooks thru Carlos thru Nobuger thru Leonard 1 the greatest welterweight I ever saw.
     
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  9. JLP1978

    JLP1978 Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the response.

    Do you mind posting your score card? No problem if not.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion
     
  10. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    Hi sorry I am away til monday but will be happy to when i get home. Can't turn down an excuse to watch that fight.
    I just cant see it for Leonard at all I felt Duran bossed it.
     
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