A LOOK BACK Floyd vs Castillo. A Clear & Disgraceful Robbery!!!!!!

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  1. eze

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    Berto, Harris, Allatorre, Diaz, Esalas, E, Clottey, Maussa, Cuevas, Barrientes, Cordova Jr, Aguiar, Cotey, Cantera, Fountain



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  3. Blizz42

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    Now that posters are watching this fight again, and its back in their memory......you can clearly see which posters have an agenda with Floyd lol. Floyd won the first fight, and clearly won the second. Nobody saw Floyd in a tough fight before, and the hbo crew rode with the crowd that night. They didn't like the fact that Floyd took castillos title by out boxing him instead of out slugging him.
     
  4. Exactabox

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    These were not WW bouts. As per Wikipedia and any sane boxing fan.

    Professional career

    Junior Welterweight


    Victor Ortiz media workout at Westside Boxing Club in LA on June 24, 2009
    After turning professional, Ortiz easily won his first seven fights against weak opposition. However, on June 3, 2005, Ortiz was controversially disqualified in the first round of a bout against unknown Corey Alarcon in Oxnard. After having already knocked Alarcon down once in the round, Ortiz knocked him down again shortly after referee David Denkin ordered the fighters to separate from a clinch. Alarcon stayed down for the count, and was awarded the fight based on Denkin's judgment that Ortiz's knockout punch had been an illegal punch during a break.[25]
    Following the fight with Alarcon, Ortiz continued to win and had built a record of 18-1-1 as of August 30, 2007, when he fought his first well-known opponent, Emmanuel Clottey of Ghana, in only his second bout scheduled for ten rounds. Ortiz defeated Clottey by technical knockout in the tenth and final round.[26] Three months later, Ortiz followed up on his victory with another knockout win, this time in the first round of a ten-round bout against former junior welterweight titlist Carlos Maussa of Colombia.[27]
    On September 13, 2008, Ortiz fought his first bout scheduled for twelve rounds, against Roberto David Arrieta of Argentina. Ortiz knocked Arrieta down in the second, fourth, and fifth rounds, and won by technical knockout in the fifth round.[28] At the end of 2008, ESPN named Ortiz the boxing prospect of the year.
    On March 7, 2009, Ortiz fought his first bout televised on HBO World Championship Boxing against Mike Arnaoutis of Greece, who had fought top-ten junior welterweight contenders such as Juan Urango, Ricardo Torres, and Kendall Holt without ever having been knocked out.[29] However, Ortiz scored a technical knockout of Arnaoutis in the second round.
    On June 27, 2009, Ortiz faced Marcos Rene Maidana (25-1-0) of Argentina in Los Angeles for the interim WBA World light welterweight title. Ortiz entered the fight with an eight-fight knockout streak.[30] Maidana, a dangerous puncher, had won 25 of his 26 previous bouts by knockout. The only previous blemish on his record at that point was a close split decision loss to WBA champion Andriy Kotelnik.[31] Both Ortiz and Maidana were knocked down in the first round. Ortiz knocked Maidana to the canvas twice in the second round. Ortiz suffered a cut in the 5th round and was knocked down in the 6th round. The fight was stopped after Ortiz was taken to the ringside doctor where it was ruled he could no longer continue due to the swelling in one eye and the deep cut in the other. The interview given by Max Kellerman didn't help his cause where he declared "I don't deserve this".[32]
    [edit]Comeback
    Before the Maidana fight Ortiz fired Roberto Garcia and Garcia's father. Ortiz expressed how the Garcias constantly humiliated him through derogatory speech but would then hire Garcia's brother Danny.[33] After recovering from a broken wrist and switching trainers, Ortiz announced his return fight would be on HBO Boxing After Dark.[34][35] On December 12, 2009, Ortiz bounced back from the defeat he suffered vs Maidana to stop the former IBA Light Welterweight champion Antonio Díaz, who failed to answer the bell for seventh round.[36] Ortiz then fought Hector Alatorre on February 25, 2010 winning by TKO in the tenth and final round.
    Ortiz vs. Campbell
    Ortiz was victorious in a unanimous decision victory over Nate Campbell on May 15 at Madison Square Garden on the Undercard of Khan vs Malignaggi bout. Ortiz, 23, was quicker, more active and landed heavier shots throughout the fight. Campbell, 38, did not seem to have much steam on his punches on the few occasions that he landed anything solid. He also appeared troubled all fight by Ortiz's southpaw style and straight left hand as he followed Ortiz around. Ortiz scored a knockdown on a short right hand, although it also looked like he shoved Campbell.[37]
    Ortiz vs. Harris
    On September 18, 2010 Victor faced former WBC and WBA Light Welterweight Champion Vivian Harris on the Shane Mosley vs. Sergio Mora undercard at Staples Center.[38] He was on ESPN's SportsNation to promote the fight with Harris. Victor landed 25-of-54 power punches. He dropped Harris with both hands and landed some nasty power punches. That short right really showed off the unique power possessed by Ortiz. Ortiz knocked Harris down three times in the second round en route to a knock out win with :45 seconds left in the third round.[39]
    Ortiz vs. Peterson
    On the undercard of Amir Khan vs. Marcos Maidana, Ortiz faced former title challenger Lamont Peterson on December 11 at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino in Las Vegas. Peterson went down for the first time from a right hand that finished a four-punch combination. Peterson got up quickly and did not appear hurt. But he was moments later from another punch and he grabbed on to Ortiz as they tumbled to the mat. But when the fight resumed, Ortiz was on Peterson again and knocked him hard into the ropes, which held him up and caused referee Vic Drakulich to call the second knockdown of the round with about 30 seconds to go. One judge scored the bout a win for Peterson with the other two remaining judges scoring the bout a draw, the fight will go down on record as a draw. This was despite those who were in attendance saying that Ortiz clearly won the fight.[40]

    Welterweight
    Main article: Andre Berto vs. Victor Ortiz
    Ortiz fought Andre Berto for the WBC welterweight title on April 16, 2011 at the Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket. Hailed as the early pick for the fight of the year Ortiz won the fight by unanimous decision over Berto. They both came out aggressively, then just over a minute into the round, Ortiz landed a shot behind Berto’s head and Berto went down. Berto and Ortiz exchanged knockdowns in their fights with both of them going down twice. Both fighters were hurt in that fight. However, Berto took a lot of punishment while against the ropes and looked to be exhausted after the 6th. Ortiz had his way from the 7th on and only had to worry about an occasional big punch from Berto. The judges scored the match 115-110, 114-112 and 114-111 all for the new WBC Welterweight Champion.[41]
     
  5. eze

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    Thus why Floyd turned into a ***** later on to stay on PPV.

    Most people tune in to watch Floyd lose, not to fight.

    The opposite for Manny.

    If not Mayweather would be in JMMs position.

    Winning but not with the right style.
     
  6. eze

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    Wikipedia does not count :lol:


    and wikipedia doesn't realize that anything from 140.01 - 147 is a WW fight.

    :good

    So are you telling me that Pac is not a legit champ at 147 or 154?
     
  7. Blizz42

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    No lmao. He fought catch weight title fights at those weights :lol:
     
  8. eze

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    Ahh. So as long as a title is on the line.


    I see. :lol: No.


    It only works one way.

    If 145 is a legit WW fight, then so is anything above 140. :good
     
  9. Blizz42

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    It's almost embarrassing to say that Floyd LOST the first fight with Castillo. I'm glad someone posted the fight lmao.
     
  10. Exactabox

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    Im telling you that Weight Classes are designated before the fight. If both fighters agree to a pound or 2 difference that is fine as they have the same time to prepare and plan for the contracted weight and there is no advantage to either fighter.

    because a fighter re hydrates and comes in heavier that does not constitute the weight class. What matter is what is the weight at weigh in. For Ortiz + the opponents you mentioned the weigh in limit was 140.

    And Yes this is only Victor Ortiz's 2nd official WW bout. Enjoy your day.
    Stop reaching.
     
  11. eze

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    Anything over 140 is WW. :deal
     
  12. Blizz42

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    :good I don't care what is called a ww title fight. When you negotiate for a weight to fight at that is less than what the maximum weight class for that division limit, imo your looking to weaken a guy, not be even with tbe guy. Can't change my mind about that. But.......that fighter did agree. Cotto and Margarito wanted the money when they fought Pacquiao, and fought him at 145 and 151.

    They said that Sugar Ray wanted advantages against Hagler, but at least he fought Hagler at 160. Sugars hands swelled up, and sugar said he weighed 147 after their fight.
     
  13. eze

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    If you truly want to go by this 2lb difference and say anything at 140.01-142 does not count.

    That would still put Ortiz number of WW fights at 8.

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  14. eze

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    So, are you saying that Pac is not a legit 147 and 154lb champion then?
     
  15. Samski313

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    Owned throughout the whole thread/:rofl