A Mayweather Revisionist's worst nightmare:

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  1. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    There's been another thread circulating the past few days about the supposed "ducking" that Mayweather has done in his career, and I find it quite laughable. I don't know if the individuals (C MONEY) who are Mayweather detractors were even fans of the sport at the time, for I have no idea why they can't remember how things went down throughout Floyd's career, especially the younger years.


    Regarding Spadafora C Money, since you seem to have a hard on over that one, while Mayweather was beating the universally recognized man at 135 in Jose Luis Castillo, Spadafora was squeaking by Angel Manfredy, of whom Mayweather had stopped in the second round a year or two before.

    Spadafora then went on to fight the amazing Dennis Pedersen in November, while Mayweather was proving his detractors wrong by rematching Jose Luis Castillo.

    Spadafora agreed to fight Dorin before Mayweather agreed to fight Sosa. The same Sosa that many members of the media felt was jobbed against Spadafora, when Spadafora hit the canvas twice against Sosa. Spadafora decided to vacate the division following this bout, citing weight problems for his draw against Dorin. And who was the first person that Mayweather challenged when he wanted to move up to 140 after the N'Dou bout? You guessed it, Paul Spadafora. And it wasnt a guarantee that the commission would not agree to sanction the Mayweather-Spadafora bout. You like to spew garbage without knowing the facts. A quick google of the annual ring rankings at lightweight for 2003 will show that Spadafora was unranked, having vacated the division after being ranked behind Castillo and Stevie Johnston the prior two years.

    Spadafora agreed to the challenge in February of 2004 before the bout was shot down by the proposed sanctioning body.

    Get your facts straight.

    And before you go talking up Stevie Johnston, you have to remember that he looked less than stellar in his fights following the Castillo bouts, and by the time that Floyd and Jose Luis were finished doing their thing, Johnston was sparked out by Juan Lazcano.
     
  2. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Regarding Casamayor and Freitas:

    At the end of 2000, Corrales was the number one ranked junior lightweight and Floyd was ranked number two. Very fitting, considering that they fought each other in January of 2001.

    Then Floyd decided to have a bout in his hometown after winning the biggest fight of his career against Hernandez (a future world title holder), while Jesus Chavez was winning a title eliminator bout at the same time. I'd also like to point out that following his win in the title eliminator, Chavez was ranked #4 by Ring Magazine right behind Casamayor and Freitas. Floyd defended his belt against his mandatory challenger in Chavez, and while this was taking place, Casamayor and Freitas fought each other. Floyd immediately said following the Chavez bout that he was vacating the division due to troubles making the weight.

    Reference that Floyd was already on his way out before Freitas-Casamayor took place:
    http://www.diamondgloves.com/html/rankings/p4p.html

    You could make a case that he "ducked" them if youre unbelievably biased, but he had a hometown bout following his performance against Corrales, and then fought his mandatory challenger who was ranked comparably to Casamayor and Freitas at the time.

    And I dare you to find an article anywhere that has Casamayor or Freitas calling out Floyd.
     
  3. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Regarding Kostya Tszyu:

    http://www.ringsidereport.com/wilbur11242004.htm

    Since you dont believe that a Tszyu-Hatton bout was more lucrative at the time, you should really read the last paragraph.

    And FYI: The only time an HBO fighter and Showtime fighter ever fought each other was when Lewis-Tyson took place.

    Read along in this one to find that even Floyd doubted it would be easy to make the Tszyu bout happen due to the conflicting networks:

    http://test.thesweetscience.com/boxi...yu-hoya-cotto/
     
  4. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good ****! The haters never give up though!
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mayweather-Mitchell was @ 147. Casamayor's been fighting @ 130 and 135 for pretty much his whole career, although he's been over the 135 lb limit a couple times.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  7. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** - if he doesn't get your point - he needs to shot himself.
     
  8. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Why are you defending Floyd?

    Who gives a **** about this ****?
     
  9. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    As EB pointed out, the Mitchell bout was Floyd's first at 147. Casamayor has never even truly campaigned at 140. I don't know where this is coming from, but if you can provide a link, I'd be more than welcome to read about it.
     
  10. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Great post. Thanks for your intelligent contribution.
     
  11. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Well it's like you're defending him for having sex with some dude when allegedly he didn't.

    Why the **** would you defend this ****?
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry Capfunds, but you have attacked PBF relentlessly before. So if you felt so obligated to attack, why cannot others feel just as obligated to defend? And for that matter, why does EITHER matter? It's a boxing board and the post is about boxing.
     
  13. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I don't know.
     
  14. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obviously.
     
  15. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Yeah I'd like to know who that is quoting. I'm pretty sure that Margarito and Arum hadn't begun calling out Mayweather until after the Mitchell bout, considering he wasnt even a welterweight until that bout.

    And Casamayor all the way to 147? That seems far fetched to me.