A Mayweather Revisionist's worst nightmare:

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  1. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    His opposition wasn't that impressive, even for a titleholder. It was his bouts with Freitas, Corrales and Castillo that legitimized him as a truly elite fighter.

    I mean take a serious look back at his opposition during those 2 years as champion.
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Oh ****. Well, she's still hot....:good
     
  3. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    :good

    The Hernandez bout was Floyd's first chance to fight in front of his home crowd, and even though Hernandez would late go on to become a titleholder, Casamayor or Freitas could have been opponents, but I don't feel that there was much public demand for either of those bouts at the time that PBF was still at 130. Chavez was then mandatory, and PBF had outgrown the division.

    Certainly it would have been unification, but a revisionist will look at unification in the past as a big deal even though PBF possesed the linear title.
     
  4. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Casamayor at welterweight is a MAJOR stretch. And Casamayor sits in the pocket far too much to be considered the same type of threat to Floyd as Spinks would be. Spinks style to hit n run with the reach advantage he'd have over Floyd would be far more difficult than Casa's style.
     
  5. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    LOL.

    You spend entirely too much time thinking about me.
     
  7. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Point it out.
     
  8. digiram

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    You proved that PBF chose to eat a Whopper instead of a Big Mac.

    He can't eat both at the same time, and ended up choosing the burger that you don't like.

    Thanks.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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  10. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Yeah even a Mayweather supporter like myself can't stand BigTime, and his incessant posts ruined what I was hoping would be a nicely debated thread, using actual facts, timelines and interviews.

    ESB forbids such things.
     
  11. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    OK, got it.

    But I will not give much merit to any assertion that Floyd ducked Casamayor by not fighting him at 147. Hell he received disdain for fighting Mitchell at 147, let alone Casamayor who never even campaigned or one any sort of titles at 140.

    At 147, I think Casamayor and Mitchell are pretty much even as potential opponents. Thats just my opinion, you may disagree. It is what it is.
     
  12. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Yeah Casamayor looked real fresh following his loss to Castillo and draw, I REPEAT DRAW TO RAIYMKULOV.

    He looked like absolute **** in that bout and it probably cost him the Mayweather bout.
     
  13. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    You are biased when it comes to Casamayor, and regardless of whether you felt that he won it or not, he looked like GARBAGE in that bout.

    He was slow, lethargic, couldnt get away from punches like he used to, rarely threw combinations, etc. etc.

    He had just as many, if not more of the "shot" signs than Mitchell had ever displayed at that time.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Those ratings are for the end of the year. Look at the 2004 ratings.

    Gatti was actually ranked as the #1 contender behind champ Tszyu at the start of 2005.
     
  15. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    OK, I am glad that you showed me that. I did not recall that PBF was actually considering Casamayor for that bout.

    And what they have done since then is irrelevant, how can it be accounted for in the decision making at the time. Sure, in hindsight it may have been a better bout, but at the time, it was a toss up, and Casamayor was coming off an uninspiring draw at 135, and Mitchell was coming off an uninspring win at 147. You do the math. Do you have any idea how much flak PBF most likely would have caught for fighting a current lightweight who looked like garbage in his last bout at welterweight?