A Mayweather Revisionist's worst nightmare:

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  1. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it doesn't matter because you've lost another argument based purely on facts, not conjecture, or hyperbole:hey

    my post stands on the facts.. manfredy beat gatti back in 98. 7 years later who was #1 ranked by ring at 140 and had the wbc belt was it cassa, manfredy or gatti.

    you're getting too easy, like a ***** with a busted *****, you just keep begging for more:rofl
     
  2. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And your the only one I've heard him say he ducked Casa...
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's been said before....Casa has always been considered a fighter PBF should have fought. Not sure about at 147, but I have certainly heard he should have fought him or Freitas at 130, or fought him at 135.
     
  4. bigtime9

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    no you're wrong sharmba had fought at welter before:deal he fought chris smith for the naba welter title before he fought floyd

    :bbb http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1382&cat=boxer:bbb


    the fact remains floyd vs a 135lber who has never fought at 147 would not have made sense.:thumbsup


    you're starting to sound like you have an agenda. common sense says if floyd started at 130 and is fighting bigger guys at 147 why isn't cassa doing the same. why is he 35 and still at lightweight:deal floyd has fought as high as 154 what about cassa.


    no I wouldn't, let's get one thing straight. You are on thin ice and it's about to break:smoke cassa is not nor has he ever been on floyd's level not now not ever. so no cassa would have been a big win if he had distinguished himself as the best by beating the best. something cassa could not do:deal


    at least sharmba was at 147 not 135:deal
     
  5. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you don't prepare to fight welterweights by fighting lightweights.:deal
     
  6. bigtime9

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    casamayor has been beaten before that is all that matters. once again what did cassa accomplish in the ring that would make floyd stand up and take notice, or for that matter boxing writers:deal
     
  7. KO Boxing

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    Not neccessarily so. If a 130 pounder called out Floyd (say Pac), and a 147 pounder that wasn't as good also called him out, of course it's not ducking if Floyd chooses to fight the 147 pounder over the 130 pounder (Pac).

    And as this was a non-title fight, I don't think the final two fights were down to Mitchell and Casa, considering he had a few champions to also choose from.

    Casa was still 135, let alone 140... Do you think he's the first person that has called out Floyd and not got a fight? I suppose everyone that has called out Floyd and not gotten the fight, has been ducked, right? Even if said fighter was say, Reggie Strickland...

    IMO, that criteria sucks.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Mitchell was a little bigger and perhaps PBF was preparing himself for punches from WW since Mitchell hit a little harder.

    I would rather have seen him fight Casamayor at 130 or 135. He only lost by controversial decisions so he was still a big name at those weights whether he had lost or not. He could have fought Casamayor before he fought Freitas to unify the titles.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was the WBA SFW champion for nearly 2 years. He could have fought him then.

    If Casamayor losing is all that matters, then PBF has alot of explaining to do since he has fought a ton of fighters with losses.
     
  10. bigtime9

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    are you saying cassa could have beaten floyd at 130 or 135. are you implying he had a chance to beat floyd over and above castillo and corrales:lol:
     
  11. KO Boxing

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    While my answer is no, it would have looked better on his resume than either Sosa or N'Dou, or even replace him with a defence at super feather (which would have been a unifaction fight)... Definately looked good on Floyd's resume.

    Does this mean he DUCKED him? :lol: :patsch
     
  12. Marnoff

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    Everyone has problems. Fighters fight regularly with injuries, some small, some big. That's part of the fight game. Floyd has brittle hands, and has fought through fights with them injured. It's impossible to find someone with no problems, so of course Floyd has fought people with problems.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am implying that he had a shot to beat PBF. But that doesn't matter. It's not relevant. What is relevant is that he did do something at 130 and 135, more than many of the fighters PBF fought at those weights. So saying "What did he do" would be answered with, "What did Carlos Hernandez do?". He fought Hernandez before Casa lost to Freitas. Certainly being WBA champion and unbeaten is better than anything Hernandez had done to that point.

    I haven't said he ducked him, but he certainly COULD have and perhaps SHOULD have fought him instead of the fighters he did fight.
     
  14. Marnoff

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    So Floyd is guilty for Hatton's business deals?
     
  15. Ramshall1

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