A medicine ball being smacked into your stomach

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by onourway, Oct 10, 2010.


  1. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    wrong.

    A reflex arc is the
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    . In higher animals, most sensory neurons do not pass directly into the
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    , but synapse in the
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    . This characteristic allows reflex actions to occur relatively quickly by activating spinal motor neurons without the delay of routing signals through the brain, although the brain will receive sensory input while the reflex action occurs.

    Taken from Wikipedia: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflex_arc[/ame]

    The reaction happens without concious coordiation.
     
  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its there a response,its a system genetic, one way our ancestors still talk to us. Its still Feel.
     
  3. Sprawla

    Sprawla Active Member Full Member

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    this is one of my favourite saying.. :good
     
  4. Sprawla

    Sprawla Active Member Full Member

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    hahaha i have to agree with you there
     
  5. marciano22

    marciano22 Member Full Member

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    usually experts in the field of kinesiology don't mix the physical aspects with the psychological. Why you ask? Well it's just too complicated and i agree with them, so for the sake of clarity of this thread we should all try too avoid delving into a psychological debate (and leave it for another time).
    It's true that we can't train our local nervous system to start tolerating stimuli, but we can train certain reflex arches just as we can train new forms of jumping or other simple everyday activity which operates subcorticaly. The aim of this would be to inhibit any defensive mechanisms which occur when we are under stress. The other way of thinking would be that we form a some sort of a sensory inhibition in the brain. Neuroscience does not have a complete answer on this subject, only partial views as our body is such a complicated mechanism.
    Some people on ESB have been very dismissive towards old training techniques. Doubt is useful in most instances but in this case some members should at least give this training technique a chance. Afterall it has survived the trial of time and it must do something right if modern day boxers still use it ( Pacquiao for instance does similar stuff).
     
  6. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Iron Body Training, Martial Arts.
    Just Sayin.
     
  7. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciarno 22, Know where youre coming from, and to a degree I agree. But right is right and wrong is wrong, there are other ways of conditioning which are safer and get the same results with the same feel and less damage, in fact get better results short and long term. :D Im really old school, being a pensioner, but like everything I hope to evolve.
     
  8. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its great.
    Yes you have to build youself up.
    Make sure the thrower is accurate, especially when the intensity increases.
    Protect your ribs and hip bones.
    You can do all of the ab exercises in the world and they can not match what a consistent medicine ball program will do for you.
    And yes,
    11 ib. ball,
    50/50/50/
    side/centre/side.
    fast and hard.
    everyday for 5 weeks.
     
  9. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Makes sense...:good
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its not as good as a 8"by 3ft log thats for certain.
     
  11. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but you wanna make sure you cut back to 25/25/25 when you do that. Also, drop it vertically. Don't cheat yourself.
     
  12. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. ant-man

    ant-man ant Full Member

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    Works for me, regardless of what the 'scientists' say. But hey, if it's not for you, then that's cool too.

    Sometimes you can over analyze these things...
     
  14. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Regarding the log, a round one :D.Heres something that isolates the abdominal wall while all the other support muscles are to busy keeping correct form, youre working everything but targeting the abs. Log on the floor lay on it on the middle on your Abs lock the legs and raise them, so the dorsals are engaged. Arms spread and bent supporting the upper body at 90 degrees, thats the elbows moving the arms from the elbows. Now start rolling the abs all the way up and all the way down, while doing it keep turning the torso, 3x1 mins see what you think. :good
     
  15. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or do it with a medicane ball if you havent got a log.