A neutral and unbiased view of Ward/Kovalev

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nat Turner, Dec 31, 2016.


  1. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're just starting another argument on a subject that's been argued to death for the past few weeks. You think two white Non Americans thinking Ward won somehow makes Blacks and Americans unbiased? A lot of those Black, Americans, or Black Americans probably are unbiased. But the majority aren't and your thread doesn't do a thing to change that. You think you're free from having an agenda just because you use the opinions of a unbiased partly in your post? You're wrong on both accounts.
     
  2. Chutz

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    It was a bad decision, they happen in boxing, always have always will. Hopefully we get a rematch to set things straight
     
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  3. Nat Turner

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    So my video is not the issue. Your issue with my video is that the opinion expressed in it differs from yours. I get it. Now do me a favor and phuck off.
     
  4. Nat Turner

    Nat Turner Member banned Full Member

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    Any message regarding this thread will answered tomorrow. I'm going to a New Year Party. Happy New Year guys, I'll talk to you tomorrow.
     
  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My issue is that yet another thread has been made on the subject and the one making that thread has the gall to say another poster has an agenda.
     
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  6. blackhercules

    blackhercules Active Member banned Full Member

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    How many stupid threads about Ward and Kovalev are you people going to make? If Kovalev won would he give you some money? It was a boring fight that showed how flawed both of these guys are. Ward has no power and runs like a girl. Kovalev has no skilll and just goes a for the big punch.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Who are you calling you people?

    Would Ward give you money?

    It was a fascinating chess match and one of the best matches of the year.

    You have zero understanding of the sport if you actually buy into the bull**** you just wrote about Ward and Kovalev.
     
  8. blackhercules

    blackhercules Active Member banned Full Member

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    Do you see me sucking Ward's dick like you want to suck Kovalev's? No you don't understand the sport if you realize who cares. One guy who punches other people in the face for a living beat another guy who punches people in the face for a living. It isn't that big of a deal where a month after the fighter losers like you are still crying over it. It doesn't effect your life one way or the other.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    They neither neutral or unbiased.

    Paul Smith's a former opponent of Ward's and there's also the little trifling matter of after their fight Ward returning his share of the money to Smith that was subtracted from Smith's purse by way of a fine for missing weight.

    Smith's wife was heavily pregnant at the time so that extra money was most welcome. Part of the reason for Ward's uncharacteristic display of Christian goodwill might have something to do with the criticism he drew from some quarters in his previous fight when, just as had happened with Smith, Edwin Rodriguez was fined a percentage of his purse for missing the weight. Ward and his team tried to push for the commission to fine Rodriguez an additional whatever percentage it was (can't remember right now) on top of the initial fine and had he followed through with it Rodriguez would've ended up losing 40% of his purse. Now he earned about $1 mill IIRC but he has two sick children to care for so it wouldn't have been very Christian of Ward to stick to his guns about it. Ward was well aware that Rodriguez had two sick children to care for because he'd previously mentioned that he was familiar with Rodriguez's story and he described it as ''inspirational''. Both Rodriguez's children were born premature (they're twins) and they suffer from cerebral palsy.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/13195/ward-returns-fine-money-to-overweight-smith

    That said, a member of Ward's team made sure to remind Smith to let everyone know about Ward's charitable gesture during the post-fight press conference lol

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    So I'm sure Smith feels somewhat indebted to Ward for that.
     
  10. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I see you talking about **** sucking.

    I suggest you cut it out.
     
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  11. blackhercules

    blackhercules Active Member banned Full Member

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    Why because you want to do it? I suggest you don't more than cry over boxers like they know you. Your little boxing hero lost the fight. As I said it doesn't effect you so why do you care so much? As I said before, one thing is being a fan and another thing is being a fanboy crying over some grown man who doesn't know you exist.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're awfully fascinated with man on man love aren't you, first you do a thread about guys rooting for male fighters trying to imply we're homosexuals, and now you're accusing me of wanting to suck Kovalev's dick. I can almost guarantee you I'm way more pro-LGBT than you are, I even have gay friends, I'm as liberal as it comes on this subject, yet I spend waaaaaaay less time than you obsessing about other men's sexual proclivities, I have a feeling you're projecting.:gayfight:

    Maybe you should find a new sport to follow if the idea of rooting for someone is that foreign to you, or at the very least seek some psychiatric help as to why you have no emotional connection to anything that you can't comprehend something that basic.
     
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  13. latineg

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    just cut it out unless you cant control yourself fella.
     
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  14. Serge

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    Tony Bellew (who scored Ward vs Kovalev a draw) has been tonguing his fellow Creed cast member Ward's sphincter for a while now and he's also been sticking his boot into Kovalev's (in a passive aggressive type way) for even longer.

    He picked B-Hop to beat him, he probably picked Sillakh to do the same because I remember him waxing lyrical about how good Sillakh was in a thread on the British forum once. He rated Sillakh very highly. He's picked Stevenson to beat him if they ever do get it on too. And he had this thing in his head about Kovalev's management deliberately keeping Kovalev away from punchers, too.

    “I’m very impressed with Kovalev,” said the British star. “I spent time with him when I was in Canada and he’s a gentleman, as well as an incredibly strong fighter. That said there might be a reason why his team (Main Events) avoids putting him in against big punchers.

    “Not once has Kovalev been in with someone who can bang and Stevenson knocks out any 175-pound fighter he hits flush. I think Adonis stops Bernard Hopkins and I would also favor him over Kovalev at this point. If I’m wrong and Sergey can take a great shot then he, in my opinion, he is the best light heavyweight in the world.

    “I just sense that he might be vulnerable under fire.”

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/boxing/tony-bellew-goades-nathan-cleverly-8132280

    I even wrote a few posts about Bellew taking snipes at Kovalev back in a thread in the British forum back in Feb, 2013.

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/bellew-goading-cleverly-on-hiss-loss-to-kovalev.522660/

    Bellew had also boldly predicted that Ward was ''unbeatable'' on a number of occasions too.

    http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...weight-and-light-heavyweight-says-tony-bellew

    Tony Bellew

    'Kovalev vs Ward: Andre Ward is unbeatable at super-middle and light-heavyweight, says Tony Bellew

    Tony Bellew believes no fighter can beat Andre Ward across the super-middleweight and light-heavyweight divisions.

    Having dominated the super-middleweight ranks, Californian technician Ward recently moved up to the 175lbs division and will now face the WBA Super, WBO and IBF light-heavyweight world champion Sergey Kovalev in a blockbuster clash, live on Sky Sports.

    Ward beat Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham, Mikkel Kessler and Chad Dawson on his way to being considered one of the pound-for-pound best, and victory over the Russian powerhouse would enhance his reputation further.

    Despite the showdown with 'Krusher' marking just Ward's third fight at the higher weight, Bellew believes it is has little relevance when determining the outcome of the bout.

    "Andre Ward is a master technician," WBC cruiserweight world champion Bellew told Sky Sports. "No fighter from super-middle to light-heavyweight can beat him.

    "His up-close game is second to none and he can negate any power puncher in the business. To get inside you have to take some stuff to get there and that's always the danger, but Ward is clever enough to get in and make you pay, like in the Carl Froch fight.

    "Going up in weight is no issue either. Ward has been a huge super-middleweight for a while now and those extra few pounds he has gained have no significance.

    http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/11/ward-and-kovalev-boxing/

    7:00 Bellew saying he thinks Ward is the best fighter in the world

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    Bellew is a big fan of Ward's, but not so much of Kovalev.
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    And if anyone thinks Paulie is ''unbiased'' when it comes to Ward they're utterly ******ed. He's been tonguing the kaka out of Ward's ass for a long time. He's about as unbiased towards Ward as he is to Floyd lol
     
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