A new corner Team for Fury !

Good post I agree Fury needs a new trainer who is somewhere in between his uncle Peter and Sugar Hill. What I've always admired about Tyson is he's never been one who is not willing to change his coaching staff to add new elements to his game.

 

Well as a first step he's got to figure out a way to get his dad the hell out of the corner. Because if Big John is in the corner, he won't keep his useless yap shut.

 

It's not Sugar, it's his dad. Fury mentioned that his training regime improved significantly with his dad's return, describing it as militaristic. His dad isn't a yes-man; he'll push Fury and tell him when he's not training hard enough, unlike others who might be more reserved. He needs his dad for the training camps but should rely on Sugar as his corner man.

Honestly, with Fury's level of skill, there's not much left for him to learn. This is why he was a great match with Ben Davidson, who provided valuable tactical insights.

 

Sugar was as bad as John Fury, going into the 12th he said something like -'it's in the bag, u got this! just get through this round' or words to that effect.

Now as it happens it was moot given the 3 judges somehow conspired to give Fury the 12th anyway, but Sugrahill should have been inciting urgency into Fury telling him he needed a big round, with a knockdown or a KO to be sure.

Fury's corner did him no favours the whole fight from what I could see

 

Oh, this little rabbit ... All of the UK stars, need rematches over rematches + judges and bribed referee in order to beat him. And oh this little middleweight with no power essentially fire/sacking UK trainers/team.
Remind me, wasn't there the same amount of thread on here for the same thing, after Usyk schooled AJ.
Oh, AJ needs a new team ...
I was 100% sure someone will come with this for Fury though.
Bad rabbit ....

 

First and foremost he needs to remove his father from any and all boxing stuff.

Under Sugarhill he has been utilizing his size better and was receiving good advice from him in the corner but his screwball father kept over talking Sugarhill and was also the one telling Tyson your ahead the last few rounds. John Fury is a limelight stealing jealous of his own children dad and he needs to be relegated to spectator.


As far as Sugarhill I think he is a good fit for Tyson , but the distractions are not and he needs to remove any and all distractions and work with Sugar and Sugar only.

John Fury is an embarrassment and a negative influence.

 

LOL just a few weeks ago, sugar Hill's Kronk style was going to smash lil ol Usyk to bits. Now, Fury should get a new corner? When will you guys realize, Usyk is just a better fighter. It doesn't matter who Fury trains with, how much he weighs or what style he employs. Usyk has an answer for all of it.

 

John Fury is a hideous embarrassment in fight weeks now and I am sick of him.

It was better when they did fights in the USA and he couldn't be there.

He's an attention seeking bum who craves the limelight because he was no good himself in the ring.

Shouting and pretending he's going to fight anyone at pressers and that. It needs to end. Let him do that **** with Tommy's stuff because who cares but if Tyson is serious he needs his dad away from him in fight week and absolutely away from his corner.

 

We've got a good dozen or so threads going simultaneously here on the Forum where people are opining on what style Fury should use.

I'm one of the guys suggesting Fury try a different approach from Saturday's. Yes, Fury dominated the middle rounds with feints, counters and slips... but Usyk (as he does) figured out a way to get thru, and devastatingly so in Round 9. So Fury's got to be open to trying something different -- whether a Wilder-fight Kronk style, or something different, or a hybrid.

Now, to quote the late Johnny Carson, "I did not know that" when friend GollumSlave said Sugar Hill (not just Daddy John) also was telling Fury he had it in the bag. But one thing we do know is that Sugar's advice is, in the main, probably far better than Daddy's... but if Big Daddy John is in the corner, Sugar can't get his word in edgewise.

So, I say, Step 1 is to get Daddy out of the corner. Easier said than done I realize....

 

To be fair to sugar hill, Fury was getting that uppercut working better than in any of his other fights. It was always a weak point even hitting himself with it before. Now he's honed it quite nicely. He also had a mega log jab against Wilder but that's now gone with his naff elbows.

Sugar Hill motivating him calling him the big dog is kinda lame. Fury is a pure veteran. He needs nothing but simple pointers about what Usyk is looking for. Anyone and their dog could see Usyk looking his left hand all night...then Fury goes in there in round 9 when weary and throws that sloppy combo? Hell no.

 

You can't teach an old dog new tricks. You can polish a fighter and maybe add a couple cute things to their arsenal but you can't rebuild fighters from the ground up after a certain point and Fury passed that point a long time ago. I think Sugar Hill's overrated honestly, it wasn't just John, it was Sugar Hill not teaching Fury how to fight southpaws or failing to inject him with a sense of urgency in the later rounds or not telling him to stick with the uppercuts and long jab. Andy Lee was just as bad as John, blowing smoke up Fury's ass and telling him he all he needed to do was survive to win. Everybody was bad and together they were awful but that's Fury's set-up and is what he feels comfortable with apparently. Changing his corner won't change that much really, Usyk will still have his number.

 

Fury's been boxing since he was a kid. He's now at the end of his career.

Doubtful anyone is going to come in and get Fury to change much now.

Right now, a lot of people are Fury bashing. The reality is it was a close, competitive fight.

That's the best I've seen Fury fight in a long time. He did a lot of things well.

His corner seemed chaotic though with everyone shouting over each other and giving what turned out to be bad advice.

If changes are made to his team, it will be due to the lack of judges in his corner, not because a new trainer is going to teach him new tricks.