A part of me pity valero....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by borj, Apr 20, 2010.


  1. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    first things first, blame has to be with valero himself

    had there been no massive governement support for him, he would've been sent to jail the first time he commited domestic violence. He would've been in a rehab program, an anger management, and counseling. And therefore, subsequently would have helped his behavior more.

    his alcohol and substance abuse became unnoticed by authorities because his family never reported such because of fear, which is justifiable.

    most of people would say, he dug his grave for the last few days. I say he had been digging his own grave for a long time, the moment he abused alcohol and substances.

    ofcourse, murder and suicide isn't justified by any arguments about his incapacities and status. But all I'm saying is, it can happen to any of us (depression, then substance abuse and alcohol abuse, and then eventually addiction, and repeatition of the cycle)

    A part of me pity him..
     
  2. J-Dilla

    J-Dilla Member Full Member

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    he was a very mentally ill man. had no control over his temper
     
  3. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Your also overlooking his motobike crash and brain surgery. Who knows what kind of damage can be dun with that ****, not too mention taking countless blows to the head in the ring which obviously didnt help. I do feel for him as he was a talent and would arguably gone on to be considered an all time great with his punching power.

    But like you said u cannot excuse what he done.
     
  4. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I don't condone what he did, and it's terrible, but I do take some pity partly because he clearly wasn't right in the head and had a tonne of demons. Whether that's stemmed from alcohol/drug abuse or his brain surgery who knows.
     
  5. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Motor cycling is bad for your health...
     
  6. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    I just don't understand why you couldn't leave this as a response to one of the other hundred Valero threads. Why did you have to make an entire new thread out of something you could of just posted in any of the others? I'm going to go start a Valero thread now, too. (sarcasm)
     
  7. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Damn it! i was gonna make another one 2 :lol:
     
  8. billy boy balbo

    billy boy balbo New Member Full Member

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    a part of me thinks maybe the wife did something to tick him off maybe slept with a few other guys
     
  9. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    You live for your kids, and no matter how bad things get, you live for your kids when you have kids. I don't pity Valero, and he was one of my top 3 fighters today. It is tragic, but I don't have pity for a murderer...
     
  10. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree with most of what you say, though I don't pity him. He had major problems and that is a shame.
     
  11. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I think pity was maybe the wrong word. I don't feel any sympathy for him, but at the same time I'm not going to sit here and take a pop at him and say he should burn in hell, at the end of the day it's a tragedy on all accounts .
     
  12. Vano-Irons

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    :good
     
  13. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the guy was just ****ed in the head. no pity from me.
     
  14. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Notice how we try to find excuses for boxers no matter what asses they are?
     
  15. ciscobox

    ciscobox ..ı|ı...ı|ı.. Full Member

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    second to that mate. :good

    a father needs to be a father all the times even during rough times, doesn't he realized that? or maybe his head is really that ****ed up and ended killing his wife. He's a real fighter inside the ring, but a real coward on the outside. You can't blame anyone but himself.