A peak joe louis vs a peak lennox lewis

what is the relevance of 'in here' ??
there are scores of harry greb experts in here and nobody in here as seen him fight.
in here=no relevance at all

 

In here because that was were the arguments happened.

 

so nobody outside of esb's classic knows anything about boxing ?? i don't know how eddie futch and the other great trainers managed without esb

 

Where did I say so?

 

The relevance for boxing of this was so often disproven in here


here.this looks like the boxing universe is esb.

 

Ahm, no. It means what I wrote. Not more, not less. Sometimes things are what they seem to be, ya know.

 

Better nutrition, full time training, more widely available training knowledge. That makes Holyfield more modern.

We will keep it, because the 190lbs heavyweight champion went distinct decades ago and isn't coming back. If you believe that's a random twist of fate then more power to you, but I don't think so.

 

dispproven in here, what does that mean ??

some posters think modern, on the whole is better and some don't.
i do, as you know

 

It really does move in circles, doesn´t it?

What is with your reading comprehension today. I didn´t comment on modern vs. old - I think neither is superior and said so why quite often. I commented on the relevance of the improvements in other sports like track and field for boxing. Which is close to zero.

 

theres nowt wrong with my reading today but i can't understand your luddites understanding of every other sport evolving but boxing hasn't.

 

Read this thread again, was already discussed and I don´t want to go through the motions - again.

btw. no sport actually evolved. They changed through the influence of science, and yes most sports improved though that. Boxing isn´t like any other sport but other combat sports though. Try and measure boxing like you can runners, swimmers or cyclists. I like to see you trying. :good

 

Adamek actually was a lhw for the biggest part of his career ...

 

i don't want to go through it again either.
i've boxed, run and still cycle.why can you not measure boxing like the other sports you mentioned ??
you ever boxed btw ??

 

Yes, I did, only sparred and never fought. Boxing was only a way to improve my Karate though. I still do plenty of sports these days, 7 times a week.

And the thing is, I don´t really disagree with you but I don´t agree with you either. Certain aspects of boxing did improve due to modern science, like the average athleticism and explosiveness. But on the other hands other aspects, and to me the more important ones, detoriated on average, like skill and experience. The question to me is, can the one thing even the other one out? I don´t think so.