A peak joe louis vs a peak lennox lewis

Y'all got that right McGrain.

 

Sorry McGrain I don't think it is. Why is boxing unique amongst the 100's or 1000's of sports? Every single sport is more evolved, athletes are bigger, stronger, quicker, fitter, how can boxing be the only one which has stood still?

Now take Joe Louis and place him in the 90's, give him all the benefits of the modern era and he beats Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield 2/3 imo. But place the man who actually existed in today's era and he'd lose to the Klitschkos.

Sport evolves, boxing is no different, explain why you think it's the one sport that's stood still and doesn't apply to the 'standing on the shoulders of giants' theory.

 

Jesus, here we go again. Not another one. atsch

 

Lewis controls with the jab to set up a mid rounds KO

 

Louis by brutal early knockout.

 

You in denial too huh?

 

I tend to agree with this. A middleweight is still a middleweight...60 years ago or today. One could argue that a 240lb athlete like Lewis would be too much for virtuaslly any Gene Tunney sized heavyweight and part of that argument would be the size differential, but Lennox has the advantage of being much more athletic and flexible than the average 240lb man, I think Lewis was atypical in that respect.

One advantage the old-timers definitely had (with a few exceptions) was that the larger number of fights that many of them had meant that they were much more experienced and knew "the wrinkles" better. I also that think that overall the old-timers weren't managed and protected like today's boxers and were by mand large more battle hardened.

Regarding Louis v Lewis, Joe's record against the big guys is pretty convincing and he's not "virtually any Gebe Tunney sized heavyweight". Lewis had a puncher's chance, sure, but was a bigger target for Joe to hit. I think a peak Joe Louis is superior to, for example the Holyfield that Lewis fought.

I pick Louis to box steadily, using good, accurate combinations, gradually put more steam on his punches as the fight progressed, use his excellent compact footwork to work around Lewis, hit both the body and head steadily and often, and stop Lennox in around 8 or 9 rounds, with a couple of knockdowns in the process.

 

Does he not have a boxers chance given Louis was outboxed by Conn, Schmelling and Walcott? There's a good case that Lewis is P4P better than the first 2 with his explosiveness, speed, accuracy and timing and with the added advantage of that massive reach advantage

 

Joe Louis would win by TKO between five to eight rounds ... Lennox excelled against large, slower big men like the Ruddocks, Golata, Grant ... against a smaller, strong, tough man who could jab and move a bit he looked slow and far less effective as seen in his two bouts against a 37 year old Holyfield ... Evander was no defensive wizard but he managed to avoid the devastating Lewis power pretty well ... he was also able to counter with some success, especially in the third round of their first bout when he had Lennox holding on ...

Joe Louis excelled at decapitating giants .. he had foot speed and used it when necessary as seen against Max Baer, Buddy Baer, Primo Carnera and Abe Simon .. he cut in and out behind his own jab and hit with such speed and power to the head and body .. he would take Lennox out of his game and chop him up ...

 

I personally don't think Lennox would have outboxed Joe like the above did - why?

Lewis's footwork was nowhere near the quality of Conn or Walcott, Conn was much lighter on his feet, as was Walcott, JJW's footwork was exceptional, and the Louis who fought JJW was clearly past his peak.

Schmeling - Louis was not in prime condition for that fight - Louis's fault for sure but he trained for that fight on the golf course & in the bedroom, not a mistake he made in the rematch.

I am also convinced that any edge in speed in this contet belongs to Joe Louis - especiall hand speed at close quarters.

 

Slight edge in speed ? When did the misconception of Joe Louis being slow of hand start ? Just because Ali with his big mouth belched it time and again the uneducated take it as fact ? Joe Louis had laser fast hands in his prime . Lennox punches look like they are under water in comparison ,,,

Here's how Louis v.s. Lewis would end ... got to about the 4:00 minute mark ...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovh8VkTxYI[/ame]

 

he - I didn't say "slight" edge - I agree with you regarding speed of hand - and of foot.

I also agree with your comment about Ali!

 

Louis wins hands down... Too technically perfect