A point about Deontay Wilder and the ongoing nonsense regarding how many contenders he's faced

The last two you mention, WD and DW, both did there's within the last decade (for WK) to current times. The fact that the most recent two came so recently tells us all about today's HW division. It's utter garbage.

 

Whilst your point stands to pretend there wasn't a touch of management strategy/WBC protection/lack of depth/fortune to it is to ignore the facts of the case.

Having 4 bodies with their own rankings and different contenders taking different routes/holding belts means it's easier to cherry pick 'ranked' guys.

Then there is the quality of the mandatory challengers and the level of opponents he's been allowed to pick himself. Only Povetkin was seen a genuine top tier fighter and then that fight didn't happen. Stiverne getting a mando position on the back of nothing so Wilder could bowl him over and get rid of a mando was sickening. Whyte has been kept away from the spot despite having put in the work in.

The time he took a risk was against Ortiz - a man without an especially notable win and knocking on for 40. He nearly got KO'd but fortuitous rules in NYC helped him out and then after taking care of business we got another crap underserved 'mandatory challenger' after getting tooled by an off the couch recovering from drugs Fury. Most consider that draw very dubious.

So there it is - he's a combo of being a freakish power puncher, lucky, protected and well managed.

 

I admit I do like the competitiveness this division has produced. Was a bit of a bore seeing WK safely fight his opp.

 

I'm offended for boxing with people trying to defend wilder to be honest.

As a boxing fan I just can't appreciate him as a fighter, he has nothing but one punch, you Need more than that in a fighter as a spectator sport, well, I do. It's a science, an art form, a discipline.. but not by today's standards it seems, it's just sad to see, it really is. WBC champ can Just stand about pawing, blinding, doing nothing, losing round upon round, poor at pretty much everything, just nothing but a bit of athleticism waiting to land a right hand ... Nah, not for me. How can anyone defend it...

It's poor, stop defending it.

Kin ell, what's happened to the sport

 

I think when people are talking about him facing legit contenders they are generally referring to the concensus top 10 rather than the WBC rankings.. most tend to know who these are, as they do with the concensus p4p list give or take.. it's not rocket science.. Consider that the WBC had a 40 year old obese Stiverne who he'd already beat & who'd fought once in 2 years as his mandatory challenger in 2017.. What does that tell you about the WBC & it's credibility? Relying solely on the WBC for his credibility isn't the smartest & most balanced route to take.. Molina, Washington, Duhaupas.. their WBC rankings at the time? I don't think even the WBC had any of them top 10.. see what people are getting at? Technically all his challengers for the belt have been 'contenders' sure but the rings are generally much better than the WBCs. They include all of the division & not just Haymons 'in house' guys & Sulamains favourites etc lol stupid thread, poorly thought out.

 

Wilder is a bum beating fraud who has only fought 2 decent opponents. He comes up with an excuse not to fight every good boxer and he has done this for years now. Loyalty, betting on himself, low ball offer (even when the offer is 20 times what Wilder has ever made), steroids (even though Fury and Ortiz both got popped for roids themselves). Every time he comes up with a new way to duck a real challenge yet he will fight an old man, a guy who is 3 years off the couch, a gatekeeper or a list of WBC bums before he fights anyone good. And his fans keep praising his cowardice. I will never understand it

 

Is Wilder the only champ ever to beat a guy convincigly and then technically goes asking for a rematch himself or at least agrees with picking the likes of stiverne, ortiz? Who does that? Those were two bullchit defences, pointless. There was absolutely zero demand for the mentioned fights. So if it doesnt make money, whats the reason then?

I hold no grudge towards his skill and the fact he only needs one good punch. Yes, its boxing, but its fighting also.

But my problem with wilder is his level of competition is really lackluster (apart from fury and ortiz, but much can be said about the state of these two also).

 

Dublechin been at the toilet water again. Pretty sure the argument has always been Wilder having only two victories over boxers who were ranked top-5 at the time (Stiverne, Ortiz).

 

Came here for the lols.

 

I agree. It took the stars to align for it to happen for Wilder who I don't believe to be capable enough to accomplish the feat at any other time really.

It used to be rare to have 3 weight world champions. Now Ricky Burns is one.