A prime MAB still beats a prime JMM

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    There was a reason I bought up the Norwood fight. Marquez was not this unstoppable force that induced fear into the eyes of all his contemporaries. He lost to Norwood, and I'm expected to believe Marco Barrera, personally ducked Marquez. It's ridiculous.

    Was Leonard ever knocked spark out by Tommy Hearns?
    Barrera became a better fighter after his first professional loss. It served him well. No disgrace in losing.

    Err..nope, and I've never described Barrera as so much superior to Marquez. I hope you know Marquez is one of my favorite active fighters.

    The arguement is you said Barrera personally ducked Marquez, and I say no he didn't. It makes no sense for Barrera to duck Marquez and then fight the who's who of the lower weights during the 90s and 2000s. He has actually fought Marquez...you know this?

    I think Barrera had more variety in his offensive arsenal, as well as having a close but clear edge in handspeed. Likewise, he could take a shot better than JMM.

    In a very close fight. MAB was at the tail end of his career, whereas Marquez was getting his first great win.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Bad style matchup for JMM. Barrera beats him
     
  3. PattyG

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    All good excuses however the fact still remains that MAB never fought JMM at 126. Final Forum never put Barrera against Marquez because they knew it was a real tough fight. That is what I consider ducking.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If you mean high risk low reward, then perhaps. Bud did Barrera personally duck anybody during his career? Absolutely not. He should not be held accountable, just as Duran would have re matched Buchanan, but his people made the decision not too - not Roberto. Same thing here.
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    uh oh....


    i'd still pick jmm in a very close fight... jmm sd12
     
  7. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought JMM is more skilled than MAB and Morales. Freddie Roach himself pointed this out several times.
     
  8. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let me tell you something amigo: We JMM fans are not *******s, and we don't want Marquez-tards giving us a bad name. JMM and MAB are both great fighters, some of us think one guy wins, some the other. It's close enough to be debatable.

    If you want to be an asswipe nuthugger, jump on the Pac bandwagon ok? We don't need you.
     
  9. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Selfkill dude I love that Avatar of yours, where do you found it?!
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another thing to remember in this matchup is that JMM only became an 'exciting' fighter when his reflexes started to slip a little bit. In his physical prime he was a super cautious counterpuncher who was hard to beat and brought NO money to the table. He also didn't make for exciting fights.

    JMM almost broke into the top level of matchmaking, then he ****ed up against Norwood and fought a very passive fight and lost. He had no leverage to make anyone fight him, and only hardcore fans knew who he was and how good he could be.
     
  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    do you really think a prime barrera can beat JMM at 135?
     
  12. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    do you really need to bring pac's name up? this is all about mab and jmm. i think you're obsessed with pac :-(