I've boxed for a while. Never fought a bout (don't want to either), just train, spar, etc. Of course in boxing you turn your hand whenever you throw a punch. Recently though I've got more in to martial arts. Bruce Lee's martial arts (geen ku do) basically street fighting. In this you do not turn your hand. You keep your elbow straight, and throw a quick punch. The reason you keep your elbow straight is because if you turn, and the other guy knows how to counter, he can grab your arm, and easily break your elbow at that position...As opposed to you having your arm straight where he can't really twist. My question though is really what to use? The guy I train with (martial arts) has been doing it for 34 years, 5th degree black belt, and he trains me to not turn my hand. I'm guessing in a boxing ring though I'd want to? Basically what I'm asking is how much more powerful/ advantage is there to even turning your hand really? Right now I just practice both ways, and I can tell not turning it is a little quicker (probably better for street fighting really). As for power you still can turn your body with straights, and hooks, but doesn't seem quite as powerful...but then again I've been practiced conventional boxing for a while, and figure I would punch better the way I'm use to. If I practiced this I'd probably be just as good as well.
My trainer told me a while back that a part of the reason for turning your hands over is to open up cuts with the gloves. The other part is of course the generation of power. Power is derived from a lot of different aspects though- positioning, extention, rotation hips and shoulders, and transfer of weight. BTW, stick with boxing. Do the JKD on the side.
It doesn't hurt to be able to do both, and I have seen professional boxers (jab mostly) without turning over the punch. It works either way. Aside from the twisting motion opening cuts, it also rotates the shoulder muscles up to protect the chin from a counter punch.
I think JKD is a little dated to be honest, how many real fights have you seen where a guy snaps another guys arm halfway through a punch. Do MMA for self defense if you want to broaden your fighting base, otherwise stick to boxing and the way it's taught in that arena.
i'd vary it in boxing but if you want to hurt or cut the fella your boxing turn the glove last minute it seems to improve reach aswel not sure how
en ive been boxing for almost for year competitively. i can tell u that turning you hand when throwing a puch puts you whole body weight behind the punch and give you an angle to slip any counter jabs if you throw a power right hand. however keeping your hand straight means that your only gonna be throwing arm punches which dont generate force. as for the counter arm breaker, sure enough its harder to do to someone who's throwing a straight hand punch, but in boxing no onez gona break your arm so turning doesnt really matter to us.
In boxing your hands are wraped/taped. Making the wrist and hand one. Allowing for the turing or tewisting of the arm for added power. While lowering the risk of injury. With the hands and wrist independnt from each other the risk of injury is greater. Not turing your hand is the best way to make sure hand and wrist are acting as one. I have also been told that because of the risk of injuring your self you should try to avoid punching and use your elbows insted. Or at lesst keep punching to a mimmium.
Yeah, that helped clarify some for me. I didn't know there was a training forum on this site, that's why I posted here. The guy I train with actually has a copy of Bruce Lee's manual (the one he used to train his students). He let me borrow it, and it's a HUGE book. Says lots of different things...Combos you can do (hands and feet of course), but the major thing I studied is it gives like 40 tips of HOW TO ACT, and FEEL. Like your whole body being relaxed while you fight, but still be MEAN, if there's a weapon nearby there's no shame in using it (says it's better for your opponent to go to the hospital than you LOL), when approached for confrontation you do not warn the opponent (this let's your opponent sort of prepare to get hit), instead you simply say "I don't want trouble" or straight up HIT HIM. About punching it says keep your elbow straight, when you throw a punch be explosive and quick, and do not extend all the way. I mean the Geen Ku Do is more than just punching. Like I said it's just straight up street fighting to WIN. Break peoples knees, gouge there eyes out, Groin kicks/ punches, you actually throw a punch with your fingers straight, and ram it into there damn eyes, fighting multiple opponents (don't let anybody take you down), angles, etc. Like the way you fight is your lead hand in front. 80% of punches/ kicks come from your lead hand, so you put that out instead since it's quicker. I can fight both quite well (train both equally) so I don't really have any problems. Yeah, think I'll stick to both then. Maybe whenever I wear gloves (beat the bag, or what not) I'll stick with turning my hand. Whenever I shadow box I'll stick more to keeping elbow straight. I mean physichally you can train for everything, but the only thing I realize is if you have so many moves/ variety in your moves...When it comes down to being physichal you need to know what your going to do ahead of time. If you can't pick a punch, or a style, somethin' then you might kind of hesitate (or at least I do believe I would).
