A question for Phil Austin...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Contendo, Oct 21, 2009.


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  1. Contendo

    Contendo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mr IBO Phil,

    Out of curiosity more than anything, what happen's from the IBO in relation to one of your champions, and this particular case Sakio Bika who is coming up to a year since he won it, yet with no defence or appearing like having anytime soon?

    I like Sakio as a fighter, but geez I like to see him fight more and defend his title.
     
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  2. perfect jet

    perfect jet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I asked Phil the same question a few months ago. Phil did say when he needed to defend by, I can't remember the exact date.
     
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  3. Phil Austin

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    Hi guys

    Basically the champion must defend his title every 9 months at the extreme. Problem with Sakio is he has received no challenges which makes it a little tough to vacate the title on him, by the same token if he fights two non-title fights in a row he will lose the title anyhow....
     
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  4. Contendo

    Contendo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks geezer for clarifying, much apreciated.

    I don't know who speaks/acts for Sakio, but my 'outside, looking in' impression is that he overprices his worth. There was major talk that previously Mundine offered him an excellent purse, yet Sakio still wanted more?

    I couldn't see Sakio putting on his own shows like Mundine, hence who's going to bother challenging him here? He simply wouldn't sell the tickets or be a big enough attraction to the tv powers-to-be here to make a show viable.

    Again, I'd love to see him in the ring consistently, we'll just have to wait and see what's next.
     
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  5. Phil Austin

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    Don't think you would get too many logical arguments against what you have said Nafe
     
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  6. boxoncottonon

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    Phil, surely it is in the best interests of the IBO to order a mandatory defense and put forward a top 10 fighter from the division? What difference does it make that no one has offered up a challenge....who runs the IBO...promoters?
     
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  7. perfect jet

    perfect jet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree. Otherwise Promoters could sit on a fighter and his belt forever. Ok, so Sakio has been hard to match. Fair enough.

    But tell him he needs to fight his mando or defend OR lose his belt and watch them find an opponent for him. That's if he covets the IBO belt, which I'm sure he does. His career has stalled so he needs it.
     
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  8. Phil Austin

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    If someone was forthcoming with a challenge, you can rest assured that Sakio would not be able to price himself out of it... can hardly say promoters run the IBO considering all the requests we have turned down recently. As I said he will have to make a defence soon...
     
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  9. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    Without looking to blame anyone, there's a certain amount of Catch 22 about Sakio's situation.

    Would be good for all concerned, not the least himself, if he got a title bout set.
     
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  10. boxoncottonon

    boxoncottonon Boxing Addict banned

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    But why does IBO not demand a fighter with a title to match up....do they have a say in which top 10 fighter must make a challenge and when it is to happen???
    It is clear that if a challenge is put forward Sakio must take it, what about where there is no forth coming challenge.
    What do the IBO generals do...nothing???
     
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  11. Phil Austin

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    Nah not at all, he won't just sit there with the title forever. As long as an opponent meets the criteria then that's what concern's us. We are not match-makers in trying to force a fighter to fight a certain fighter and we stay away from mandatories wherever we can
     
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  12. boxoncottonon

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    What would be a criteria missing in any of the 10 fighters which currently sit below him in the division for which he holds the title?
     
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  13. Contendo

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    I don't know if it can all be attributed as catch 22. As noted previously, it was well-circulated within the industry that there was an 'offer' but forward to fight Mundine, yet it was also noted that Sakio wanted bigger bucks.

    Previously winning the 'Contender' in America doesn't quantify in Australia to receiving the big $$$. (means jack **** really!)

    Again, he won't put on a show as he's not a draw, i.e sales, yet wants promoters to pay him big $$$. I'm all for boxers being well-paid, but on this one, I'm on the side of the promoter, if the boxer - as a draw, doesn't pull thru gate money or ppv sales, he unfortunately isn't much use to them, quality fighter or not.

    Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I like watching him fight, yet him sitting around and not fighting and calling people out for opportunities doesn't mean squat.
     
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  14. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    The Catch 22 I see is he's very talented (so not just anyone is going to want to go in with him), not a great crowd puller (so the overall booty mightn't be huge), and if he's also over-hungry on the $$$ as some are suggesting, it's a pretty bad mix for teeing up a title fight really.
     
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  15. JOSEY WALES

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    Well seeing as Mundine can't make middle anymore and Bika is dragging his heals why not order them to fight at a catch weight or strip the pair of them .
     
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