A Question For Wlad Fans: If all Haye did against Wlad was run . . .

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  1. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Klitschko fans claim the only reason Wlad did not knock Haye out was because he was running.

    They also claim that Wlad is faster, has better footwork, hits harder and is more accurate than most heavyweights in history.

    So what I want to know is this:

    IF ALL HAYE WAS DOING WAS RUNNING, WHY DIDN'T WLAD JUST CUT THE RING OFF AND KNOCK HIM OUT?
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Just want a straight answer you know.

    It seems bizarre to me that an ATG heavyweight was unable to pin down and KO a cruiser weight who was just running all night. That should be his bread and butter surely?
     
  3. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man... i take my hat off and give credit and dues for your strong effort Shaunster.

    You are Man on your mission to destroy and silence Klitschko Fans.:lol::yep
     
  4. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad/Haye was actually a pretty good heavyweight fight. It was exciting from start to finish. The main downside was Haye's flopping antics, but these antics did not dominate or determine the fight.

    There was very little holding or fouls throughout the fight. Both Wlad and Haye showed outstanding movement and technical ability.

    The idea that Haye was running and not engaging is ludicrous...most of the people advancing that viewpoint either hate Haye with homo passion or they overestimated Haye's chances and were disappointed Wlad didn't get KOed.

    There were plenty of good punches thrown...but both fighters were too cautious to go to the trenches.

    For an example of a negative and/or overmatched performance see Chambers, Briggs, or Johnson vrs. Klit. Haye's performance was much better.
     
  5. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I'm just confused Malibua. I thought I knew about boxing, but obviously there's something I'm missing and there is a perfectly legitimate reason why Wlad didn't use his superior footwork, speed and accuracy to pin Haye down and KO him.

    I just want the more informed KBro fans to educate me.
     
  6. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Shaunster just comes on line to check out his big ***** thread from time to time...
     
  7. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know some little about boxing, bit here and there :yep
     
  8. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I just don't know why Klit fans like yourself can't answer the question.

    Very strange.
     
  9. Lartize

    Lartize Active Member Full Member

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    Klit was easily winning the fight on cards and both he and Haye knew it. At that level of the game, it was Haye who had to press the action. You aren't World level by making mistakes that allow your opponent to capitalize and win.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's the same old story from Klitschko fans.

    Why did Wlad do that awful slapping thing against Ibragimov? Because Ibragimov didn't want to fight, according to them. If Ibragimov didn't want to fight, Wlad should have been able to wipe the floor with him if he's as good as they say.

    Why did Wlad hold against Mormeck excessively? According to his fans, because Mormeck was "walking forward and throwing no punches". If Wlad is as good as they say he is, why didn't he figure him out and then stop him inside the first round?



    On one hand, they argue Wlad is capable of beating some of the greatest heavyweights in history. On the other hand, when Wlad puts in a bad performance, it's because his opponent didn't want to fight. Is that the sign of a great heavyweight? I don't think so.
     
  11. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well the question is stupid.
    I ask you this. Why couldnt Mike Tyson knockout James Tillis when both Tim Witherspoon and Tommy Morrison KO'd Tillis in one round each?
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Wlad is the taller, rangier fighter. It's up to Haye to engage and score points, especially when he's behind in the fight (which was every round past the 1st). Wlad knew he had the fight in the bag and didn't throw caution to the wind, which was the only way Haye could win. In the meanwhile, Wlad was stalking David, landing jabs and the occasional right hand. He was comfortably winning rounds and there was nothing Haye could do. Who wouldn't bank on a certain win, guaranteeing future 10+million fights even against nobodies like Mormeck?
     
  13. Greco

    Greco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he was too nervous about getting caught trying to get the KO. Though Wladimir really went after the KO in the Mormeck fight, it's been a long time since the last time I saw him look for it that hard. Though if Haye had opened up and let his hands go like he did in the 12th I think that Wladimir would have been able to land on him flush and would have stopped him.
     
  14. EnzoRD

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    This ^. Wlad is not a predator. He'll win at any cost. He'd rather win a decision anytime if it means taking a risk.

    That is the simple reason why Wlad is not an exciting fighter and why he has failed to capture the imaginition of real or casual boxing fans.
     
  15. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    No, that doesn't make sense. Completely irrelevant. It's not comparing two different fighters performances.

    My question is legitimate: Wlad fans say he didn't KO Haye because he was running. So why didnt Wlad cut the ring off?

    Does he not know how to cut the ring off?

    Was he scared to get too close to Haye?

    Is he just a naturally cautious fighter who doesn't chase the KO?

    There must be a reason