A question regarding Joshua ?

AJ likely beats Nistor now, but his amateur career shows his chin was much better than average when hit by punchers on Nistor's class. Some felt Nistor was robbed vs. Tony Yoka in the Rio Olympics.

I agree Marciano and Dempsey punched harder, with their 6-9 ounce gloves and probably hit harder is they were wearing 12-16 ounce gloves. Nistor though can punch.

Tyson was very young in his Olympic trials. Remember Mike turned pro at age 18!

I think AJ's best competition is not Wilder, Parker or Povetkin over 38 years old. It will be the up and comers not ranked in the top 10 currently.

 

Nah, not really. Should wait for them to retire to judge their careers against olden careers.

Best you can do is "At this point in X career" Well, whatever son see me in ten years and see if you can still say that because ATG is a steep mountain.

 

I have no problem comparing him to them now, that said well finally find out what kind of fighter he is in this fight, personally i think Parker will expose him for being too stiff, bulky, lacking head movement and not being fluid, but if joshua does win this fight I'll regard him alot higher, and if he actually beats wilder I'll be very impressed. But currently his best win is against the hallow glass shell of klitchko that was whooping his @ss before he slipped up

 

I won't rate him definitively until he retires.If Parker sparks him ,those mentioning him with the greats will look as silly as those clowns who jumped on Kovalev's bandwagon, the foremost of whom is my pet enemy on here.
Bottom line his resume is still very thin.

 

I have followed Joshua from his amateur days, and saw him as something special in the making early in his pro career.

I also held back from making bold claims for him in this forum, as I always do when a fighter is a work in progress.

The Klitschko fight answered three of my key doubts, for the price of one.

I am still in no hurry, because I think that the next few fights, will clarify the position further!

 

He's got a good resume for how many fights he's had, you can't ask more of him.

 

His resume is a thin one by classic standards.

Martin was one of the worst alphabet champions.

Whyte and Breazeale were guys who would be major players slightly later.

The Klitschko win was obviously outstanding.

A win over Parker would shore things up a bit.

 

Before he can compare to the likes of Dempsey, or even Braddock, he has to do what they did. This means he needs to prove he is the best in the world today. He hasnt and a win over Parker doesnt prove this. If he beats Parker, he beats another top contender, approaching the no of top contenders Braddock beat. He needs to also beat Wilder or Fury (depending on whether or not Fury actually trains and fights properly again). If he does this he reaches (and i presume in some cases surpases the likes of Braddock, Hart, Johansen, McCall, Rahman, Moorer etc) ie the lowest level champions.

At the moment, he deserves to be ranked with the top contenders (though he has potential to rise or drop), Meaning he is on par with Say Sharkey, Witherspoon, Layne, Ruhlin, Valdez, Machen, Terrell, Miske, Farr, Donald, etc.

I think he probably beats the lower ranked contenders.

 

Let's wait and see before he's judged to be an ATG!!! Way to early!!!

 

I personally consider him to be the best in the world right now.

Fury is done!

 

I agree that Fury is done, but to be the best today, he needs to beat Parker and Wilder. i think wilder is the best but it is just guess work until he beats the best.

 

Why would he need Parker on his resume to do that ?

Klitchko > Parker.


Of course its also how you look in wins too....you can match Joshua up with anyone and that's a fact.

 

A win over Parker makes Joshua better than Wilder, but Joshua is already better than Wilder, but as far as the greats, NO!