A question to Roy Jones Jnr fans about his win over J Toney

It's the side of the business I hate.. In a perfect world the best fights would just be made, but it is just not very simple..

Though, I can understand why Roy wouldn't want to sign away his future to King, especially for a high risk fight like Nigel Benn.. That could have really hurt his whole career.

 

The Levin's never wanted Roy to tie in with a promoter in any long term deals.

But I also think that Roy enjoyed being in control, due to how he was raised by his father. He'd answered to Roy Snr for 23 years until their split, and afterwards he'd finally become a man, making his own decisions.

 

Absolutely..

After Roy beat Toney and got his HBO deal, I think he honestly felt he was at the pinnacle of the sport, and It was his way or the highway.

 

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Damn, who the hell is still bumping this thread? Joness win over Toney at 168 ranks better than anything Calzaghe has done at 168. I love Cal and Roy, but Roy had the better career-period. He faced more names and threats in his prime than Cal. Cal has done well for himself, but he didn't clearly beat Hop. That wouldn't have been enough anyway, but Roy wouldn't just walk through Cal in his prime. It would've been a good fight.

 

bailey,

I don't know the specifics.

But I know that The Levin's didn't want to tie Roy in with him.

Greg Fritz said that Don wanted future options, and Roy said he wanted future options with other stipulations for an earlier Jackson fight.

You asked why he didn't work with Don earlier in his career, but he did later.

The answer is, he wasn't happy with Don's terms earlier on in his career, but he obviously was for fights later in his career.

In an interview from a few years ago, Roy said whenever he worked with Don, he made sure it was on his terms.

No we don't.

We know enough.

Jack O'Halloran moved Frankie in with him, got the best out of him, and believed in him. He was adamant that he thought Frankie could have knocked Roy out.

So when he says that he'd got a GREAT fight lined up, but blew it by being foolish, you know he was telling the truth. He was so angry and disappointed, he severed ties with him.

If the offer hadn't have been genuine, or there were stipulations that were unfair etc, O'Halloran would obviously have mentioned them.

HBO publicly backed Roy when he said he'd offered 7 figures, and again, Lampley noted that he'd never made that kind of money.

So you don't need any more information.

HBO and Jack O'Halloran confirm that Roy offered to fight him, and he declined.

 

Foxy 01,

Ha!

Roy said it, and HBO backed him.

Again, HBO publicly criticised him on numerous occasions.

His two biggest critics all throughout his career, were Larry Merchant and Ron Borges.

Yet there they were, backing Roy in a live interview.

Yet you're going to tell me that it was all fabricated?


Some clown called O'Halloran?

That so called clown was Frankie's manager.

Why would the guy who seriously believed that Frankie could have beaten Roy, have said they had a GREAT fight lined up until Frankie blew it, if it hadn't have been true?


You guys kill me.

What more do you want?

Both HBO and Frankie's own manager confirmed that Roy offered him a fight.

You guys are never satisfied.


You refuse to believe any of the above, but then expect me to believe your info on Dariusz, where things such as the timeline doesn't add up.


It's all good fun though.


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Much respect Loudon for schooling these boxing rec warriors who weren't even watching boxing during Jones reign ..:good

 

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Roy Jones had one-punch KO power at 160-168. A big part of his knockouts at that weight were his blazing fast hands. His opponents were hit with hard punches they didn't see coming.

 

:rofl ALL of your sh*t posts are utter BS you delusional autistic fat ho-mos3xual loser, whereas mine are always spot on.

lol @ this clueless f@g posting these links as though he's actually telling me anything.

The ludicrous "7 figure offers" lies .

The fact that these "7 figure offers" weren't reported (because they were imaginary), were all mysteriously turned down (because they were imaginary), and come from the mouth of a proven compulsive liar who was the biggest cherry-picking ducker of his generation....."speaks volumes".

Roid's stupid lies don't even make sense and are completely at odds with what was happening in the real world - e.g. in late '96 the Collins camp offered Roid £2m - a career-high purse - for a big unification match....which Roid predictably turned down.

Instead, Reluctant Roid started calling out the lesser known, unproven wbo middleweight titlist Lonnie Bradley immediately after the Brannon farce.

Useless spastic Loudunce excuse;

"Collins wouldn't have been a big fight! the wbo was worth a packet of peanuts! It wasn't a major title! The best fights were impossible to make at 168lbs, so Roid moved to 175lbs for a fresh challenge [ancient fat McCallum], to pursue bigger and better fighters!! [who??]"

….so why did Roid start calling out Bradley you stupid tw@t.

Benn was in & out of retirement and completely shot. Roid had been refusing to fight him since early 93, and it had f*ck all to do with Don King; "I'm not letting no Nigel Benn do that to me!"

Unsurprisingly, sh*t-for-brains Roid could never keep his stories straight; Team Roid have given at least six different stories for ducking Benn (one strange Roid excuse was Benn's divorce :rofl). On the recent Gloves Are Off episode he bizarrely brought up Collins "having a problem with Reggie Johnson" as his most recent reason for ducking Collins .

Nardiello?? 7 figures? Joke.

But "hbo confirmed it!"....clueless Lampley mindlessly parroted Pinocchio Jones' ridiculous lies more like. He clearly still wasn't even aware how full of sh*t Roid truly was.

That's his new name; 'Pinocchio' Jones.

Note that HBO, with "reporters" in tow, also blatantly lied about Roid having no rivals to face in the pre-fight segment for the Hill fight....ignoring that Hill had just been dominated by the division's champion; the same rival Roid never stopped ducking. HBO have no credibility. None.

...Jack O'Lantern believes he'd realistically set up a match with Roid ;

“We had a great fight set up with Roy Jones, jr., and he came back and wanted extra money, and I told him, you know what…see you later.
He fought a couple of times after that, but he could never fight without me. He fought a couple of times and he lost his title, and I had a deal for him to fight in Germany as a light heavyweight and he would have been champion for ten years over there. Frankie Liles would have beaten Roy Jones.”

Once he was gifted his absurd HBO contract, Jones never made any reasonable offers to his rivals. After apparently throwing out a low-ball number to Liles (which, knowing '90/10' Jones' history, would've more than likely been nowhere near "7 figures" but closer to $200k) to give HBO the impression that he was trying to make a fight with Liles – to which Liles rightly told him to f*ck off - as Roid would've fully expected, O'Lantern throws in the towel and quits managing altogether. Roid then goes back to ignoring Liles for good, having bigger ducks to focus on etc.

Roid didn't even "have him in his sights".

'Fabulous' Frankie Liles; the 10-year German light-heavyweight champion!! Another imaginary deal!!....Michalczewski or Rocchigiani would've smashed him.

Note that O'Lantern is a bitter punchy delusional old fruit loop who also writes bizarre nonsense about the JFK assassination & the illuminati. Excellent source. He's better suited managing a stall at the Tinfoil Hat Convention than world champions trying to get a fight with Reluctant Roid.

But wasn't the favourite excuse for Roid avoiding Liles - which the Roid Jones Fanclub have been parroting for years - was that Liles (& Benn) was an impossible fight to make because of Don King anyway? They must've changed stories like the lying Roid Jones camp constantly did. Why would Roid even throw out his pointless low-ball offer if Liles was promoted by King - who in the fantasy world of the delusional Roid fanboy apologists - would've wanted Roid to sign his whole career away to him?

Maybe because Roid routinely pretended to enter negotiations for fights he clearly had no intention of taking. :deal

Does anyone other than delusional Loudunce believe this 7 figure cr@p??? A f*cking child wouldn't believe such nonsense.

President of HBO Sports Seth Abraham himself CONFIRMED Roid didn't want the box the best opponents, admitting the ludicrous tv contracts were a huge mistake. Jones has been exposed forever. It's hopeless arguing against the truth.

Yet if Roid claimed that flying saucers were landing on his farm, his delusional fanclub would cite it as proof of the existence of extra terrestrial life.

Why am I even wasting my time replying to a Loudunce post?

Get it through your thick skull you tragic fat autistic delusional pompous poof; Pinocchio Jones undeniably ducked Liles liked he ducked the rest of them :deal

You'll NEVER win any of these debates. Ever. Keep trying though; you obviously have nothing else to do.

Roid & his fanclub are nothing more than objects of ridicule.

...Jones is now a fragile brain-damaged ghastly post-roid faced train wreck who owes the IRS millions due to being too damn dumb to even pay his taxes.

Continuing to box for chump change in the hope of that last big payday to clear his debts can only result in one outcome; an epic fail in the familiar form of Roid being KTFO - such as the hilariously macabre 10-minute Rigor Mortis-inducing JP Johnson KO or the spectacular tendon-stretching bobble-head Lebadev faceplant.

Maybe he'll suffer a hilarious previously-unseen stanky-leg KO instead. :hey

Roid WILL lose everything and end up broke, having to scr@pe a living by lying through his back teeth (and rapping) on the tacky after-dinner circuit.

"Roid Jones in Slough".....yes!!!