A quick note on Bute-Bika and comparing the level Bute is at with Calzaghe

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    the Bika fight was NOT one of Bute's best fights...he did lack focus early on; he wasn't himself - notice that I'm not comparing him with Calzaghe or anyone else...!
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    PrideOfWales, it is a great photo! I really mean it! Shows his manly, confident, no-nonsense-whilst-still-friendly-and-decent side!:good
     
  3. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Decebal, it's ok... I was just wondering what TomaTos was thinking.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    sorry to butt in!:oops:
     
  5. TomaTos

    TomaTos Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly..., Bute could have win 120-108.
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought it wasn't until Bute's body shots (the ones we keep hearing about) had worn Bika down, that he began to dominate.
     
  7. Nemo

    Nemo Member Full Member

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    I think basically Lucian's lack of experience (Only 100 professional rounds prior Bika) was the reason he struggled against Bika in the early rounds. Bika went in there, and put a great dose of pressure which would give plenty of top fighters in suppermiddle/middleweight issues. I think we all do agree that Bika is an awkward and very tough opponent à la Miranda and he will surely have a hard time finding a higher ranked opponent to fight him in the futur. Even though Lucian's lack of experience resulted in him being hesitant in the opening rounds, imo he showed great character with the ability to adapt to his opponent, and in that respect, Lucian gets a big :good. Those bodyshots were wicked but like i said, Bika is one tough s.o.b. for taking them. I believe Lucian was a bit surprised by Bika's aggresiveness and felt uncomfortable under that pressure. He was never exposed to that ''type'' of hungry fighter. He was cautious as he was asked to be by his handlers given Bika's reputation. Added to that is the fact that Bute is a slow starter. True is also the fact that his right hand is way too low at this level of competition but It did give us the opportunity to see the quality of his chin. This fight will definately give Bute more experience and will give him something to work on for futur fights. Bika stated after the fight that Lucian is on the same level as Calzaghe but not yet on kesslers level. I guess we will never really know cause Bute will never get his chance against J.C because Kessler will send him into retirement. Lucian Bute is not at his prime, nor have I ever said he was but he will be the 1 to beat in the futur along with the gentleman standing next to him in my avatar.

    :hi:
     
  8. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, Bute bodyshot paid dividends for sure. But what i saw that alowed him to take control is how he ajusted is defence somewhere in the forth round. Once he had done that he could find is distance and start to dominate. The incridebly flagrant headbutt Bika was penalized for is the best sign of how desperate he had gotten and how out of reach Bute was on the inside at that point.
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    great post!:good
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What round did Bika resort to headbutting Calzaghe in? He was certainly attempting it by the second.
     
  11. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    Well he did it every round really, he just stopped being able to against Bute to, so did he against Beyer its what he does. But when he stoped being to use it as he throws is punch while marching in or on the inside he threw a beatifull once with full neck spin and extention that even an untrained eye could see for the last seat in the arena.
     
  12. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have you ever seen the Bika headbutts vs Beyer and Calzaghe in slow motion?

    The most beautiful offence in the sport.
     
  13. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    Bika will have a very hard time finding quality opponent from now on i think.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I didn't know what to think when I read that Bute had headbutted Bika once or twice himself...a strange mixture of disappointment for lowering himself to Bika's level and pride because he didn't let Bika intimidate him and gave back, by all accounts, better than he received...:lol: ...who would have thought! Against a master headbanger like Bika, too!:p
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    problem is...when you have a reputation as a butter, opponents will exploit it to the max like Bute did and you will lose points even if it was the other guy that mostly banged YOU!:patsch