A Rebuttal to Thomas Hauser's Pacquiao Article

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PekPek, Jan 27, 2011.


  1. Boxing Fanatic

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    I dont think he needs Floyd. Floyd aint even a fighter any more. Hes a side show. Pac can fight Berto, or winner of Alexander-Bradley. If he beats them easily, he can retire with any one doubting his abilities
     
  2. PekPek

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    I do borge. :good

    And yeah after he somehow survives Mosley, i for one will lobby for a berto tiff. :good
     
  3. PekPek

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  4. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    :lol::nut
     
  5. fatcity

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    Not much of a rebuttal.I would not want this dude on my debating team.
    Very **** poor effort.:dead
     
  6. TheDon

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    Thats what I came here to say. Dont think he really understood the point of the Hauser article.
     
  7. el mosquito

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    this article could have been written by boxing socialist or by karceno lol
     
  8. crimson

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    Decent article.

    Always good to have a rebuttal of the Hauser piece which I thought was heavily one sided.
     
  9. bruthead

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    It depends. Hauser was right about WHY Pac left HBO. Hauser wasn't necessarily saying Pac-Mosley or Cotto-Mayorga is good for boxing. The writer of the rebuttal is right that Bradley-Alexander is a better fight than those BUT only for hardcore boxing fans who are the minority.
     
  10. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    I felt the article wasn't much of a rebuttal. He based it off pointing out how much of the Hauser article was Arum quotes but he also had hows, whys, events, sources, events, things of the sort. It was more detailed. This guy was kinda dismissing everything without debunking it.

    Pacquiao and Mosley is a big fight because Pacquiao is fighting. If you expose the general public to this fight, yea, it's not the best fight going on in boxing right now but it's a foot in the door to getting people back on to the sport and getting it back onto basic TV. Start with these fights that you know people will watch and when people become more keen to boxing again, then you can start building up household names and up and comers.
     
  11. el mosquito

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    the writer seems to say HBO kicked Pac-Mosley out of the door because it didn't want the fight. I say that is horse-****. Hauser gave out details about HBO president Plepler holding a last-ditch effort to get Arum back, that doesn't sound like HBO kicking out the pac fight.

    in the past two years, HBO has featured too much Angulo, Berto, Dawson and Arreola lol. even the bradley-alexander superfight is not even a superfight at all, it is manufactured and Alexander is a mere product of hype. HBO will greatly feel the lost of the Top Rank Stable and it will bite badly out of its boxing brand
     
  12. crimson

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    Pac did not leave HBO. ARUM moved the fight. Hauser's article is more why Arum moved it.

    His rebuttal is based on the premise that HBO is supposedly not doing the proper things for boxing under the current regime according to Arum and Hauser. Emen argue's that if that is the case then HBO should be commended for not being all that motivated to broadcast the PAc vs Mosley matchup and be praise for betting on the 140 mini tournament with Maidana, Khan, Alexander and Bradley.

    For that part I agree with Emen. However, I do agree with Arum that Pac vs Mosley is a better "TV fight" than a "competitive fight" of Alexander vs Bradley.

    It is like Ok vs Chi in basketball is Bradley vs Alexander. Young winning future elites - that nobody cares about except basketball fans. Pac vs Mosley is like Boston vs NY Knicks. You have a based audience built in and with a decent enough performance from the underdogs you can have a fight that many will be talking about/
     
  13. el mosquito

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    by the way, ohhhh pekpek
     
  14. crimson

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    While I commend Hauser for the details, Emen's premise is on solid ground. It uses Hauser's own evidence against him. If Hauser is correct that HBO executives have been falling asleep at the wheel, then it makes perfect sense to finally "wake up" and dont bet the house on Pac vs Mosley. Do the right thing and support competitive matchups that us boxig fans like -

    ... like the 140 mini tourny that HBO is supporting.

    Yes Hauser's article is better writen and researched - more fleshed out. But it does not make Emen's argument less solid, just bare bones.
     
  15. bruthead

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    Huh? Pac left HBO. His last fight was on HBO and his next fight is on Showtime. What do you mean he didn't leave HBO? Sure, Arum is pulling the string, no doubt. But it's not false to say Pac has left HBO.