I never thought Pac's chin was as good as everyone said it is. I see his head get snapped back plenty of time. And JMM has staggered Pac.
Come o n maaaan" you know how compubox works anything but a jab is a "power shot" It sounds like you didnt even watch the Margarito fight, he never landed anything with power and when he did "to the body" it had no speed behind it.
Maybe you are right MaliBua, now that I think of it. I was thinking that a prime Pac wouldnt have left himself flying forward head first into a punch like that, but when hes in the heat of battle I suppose Pac has never been careful. It just doesnt seem like a position a younger Pac puts himself in though. That was supreme carelessness just falling in head first, and yet.... a younger Pac does do this. Then I think, that there was a reason he hadnt gotten cought like that, leaping face first into a punch he doesnt see coming, in the previous 36 rounds they fought. Idk.... maybe you are right though, maybe he would have put himself in that position at any time. Its just that a prime pac had very good reflexes, and while he gets caught with punches, he rarely gets caught with punches he doesnt see coming. He rushed in face first and got caught by a square punch he didnt see coming, I just dont think a prime pac gets caught like that. But maybe you are right, the more I really think about it, I suppose he just might. I want to make clear, with me saying 'young' pac, 'prime' pac, I am not trying to take away from JMM's win, I see that it looks kinda like Im saying that. Jmm is basically 40 years old.... the win speaks for itself. By no means am I trying to take anything away from the win. But anyways, ya man maybe youre right, Pac has always gotten careless when in a dogfight and perhaps he does get caught with that shot in any year.
:rofl:rofl:rofl All time low Yes, for thinking JMM is juicing.... thats funny. Well Isal, I am sorry you take it so. However, you are far, and I mean far, from a non bias source. I like you and respect you, as you know, but you are very, very bias... especially, and I mean especially, in this case (and hey, I am bias on certain subjects too, it is human nature. I am by no means trying to belittle or throw stones or whatever. I am by all means the same) so just like Doc (who I also like) I also dont expect you to think any different. Although it would be nice for people to be able to still use their common sense, and be open n honest with eachother, or at the very least, understanding of others views, when discussing their fav fighters. It just seems that everyone has an agenda these days, and it usually involves trying to twist things the way they want to see things. If you could truly remove your emotion from this issue, and view it with intelligence and common sense, and see the dots that are there to be connected, I think you would see that. Also, I am not even trying to convince anyone that he IS juicing, I am just trying to show that theres sufficient smoke around him for various reasons, that whether or not he is, which only he knows, it shouldnt illicit such over-sensativity from his fans when people suspect him of it. Because whether one wants to see it or not, yes.... the signs are there. Someone can explain away each one, but when viewed as a whole, it becomes much harder to do, imo. And I stress that this is all just my opinion.... I am not saying that without a doubt in the world JMM is juicing. I am saying TO ME, in my opinion, I have little to no doubt that he is. And have felt this way for quite some time now. Anyways..... As for your question, if I think Pac is using PEDS. I believe he has at some point throughout his career, as I think almost any fighter you could name has. Whether he was for this fight or not Im not sure..... wouldnt surprise me though.