A Simple Question: Who thinks Mayweather would beat Manny easily?

May by complete shutout. One thing about the Pac man is when he rushes with those flurries, if he gets clocked then he always backs off and resets, ALWAYS. May is also great at switching from attack mode to defence mode, he does it in a split second and Manny doesn't. Add the accuracy, great fundamentals, timing and his ability to adapt then it's gonna be a 100% shutout.

 

Yes. Floyd occasionally gets hit with left hands clean. Can you come up with a realistic scenario for old man Mosley beating Floyd Mayweather? He lands the shot he did in the second and Floyd misses when he grabs on to the hand, then eats a few more shots. That's the scenario: Floyd's recovery and instincts are awesome, his chin is not. Pac can hit from a funny angle, Floyd fights left handed people with his guard up and walks them down.

The realistic scenario: the fast lucky shot lands.

 

Manny will beat Floyd by UD.

 

The current version of Pac I think Floyd dismantles quite easily. The version of Pac that fought Hatton and Cotto I think TKO's Floyd inside of 6 rounds.

 

Because of the styles it could be a complete shut out. No jab, no in fighting, no countering, open defence, short arms

 

It's telling that 80% believe Floyd wins comfortable or easy...

 

Obviously it's going to be competitive cause no one yet has dominated Manny not even Morales in their first fight and Mayweather is not that much better than one old ODLH, another old Shane, Margarito, Clottey and Cotto. The only thing that makes you think Mayweather would school Manny is his landslide win against JMM but remember - JMM is well adapted to manny's style just like JL castillo was to mayweather and nobody would say that JLC would beat either Manny or Floyd a little short while ago... B'sides, Floyd was 147 pounds and JMM just 142 and that means a lot, even tho Manny has given more than 12 pounds weight advantage to Margo for instance... It would be competitive in resume, IT WOULD.

 

that's because Floyd has looked great in his last fights and Manny looked bad. If I showed you ONLY Pac Oscar, Pac Cotto, Pac Hatton, and then ONLY Floyd Castillo, Floyd Carlos Hernandez, and Floyd Oscar, everyone would pick Pac to kill him.

 

I'm not sure how satisfied people will be with such a scenario, but I can see him having success this way:

I see him hopping around edging forward, backward, and side to side, and feel him out the first few rounds; he should circle to his right always to get that lead foot on the outside while Floyd's watching his upper body. Before long he should start to feint and jab while shuffling forward quickly to close the distance, and as Mayweather backs up or leans back, land the left straight. He should mix if up between throwing the left behind a jab, a lead left to the head, a left to the body, or pivoting further to the right to land a right hook to the body and a combination from that angle while Floyd finds him out of reach and has to realign his feet. Repeat the process while treading the line between being bold and cautions, maintaining a low center of gravity to dodge any counters and weave out of the left hook to his right so he can end up at an angle Floyd can't hit him at.

At some point, Floyd's going to try and cut off the ring to walk him down, perhaps with a high guard, as he often does with Southpaws, to eliminate their ability to control the angle. Then, Pacquiao should keep offsetting him with lateral movement, keeping out of reach of the right hand, while jumping in here and there to break his rhythm and throw his own surprise shots and discourage Floyd's pressure. Against Judah, because he struggled to get his foot on the outside, he was sometimes overanxious with his straight right, and jumped in sloppily with it, getting countered by the right hook; if Pac is successful moving laterally, he can take advantage of the same opportunities.

If he can do this for at least 7 rounds with sufficient output, he can win a decision. If he can hurt or drop Mayweather with a well-timed shot, it works very well in his favor. I'm sure people are tired of me stressing lateral movement concerning this match-up, but as with any southpaw and any orthodox fighter, controlling the angle by establishing outside position of the lead foot is the key, just as Barrera, Morales, Marquez, and Pacquiao himself have mentioned when breaking down their fights, along with Richardson and Beristain. To me this is one of Floyd's habitual weaknesses, and one of Pac's offensive strengths, so I believe it will be competitive assuming Pacquiao comes in determined and prepared to follow through.

 

I meant realistic,not optimistic.
If you think Mayweather being in trouble for one round in umpteen fights (wasn't the rest of the fight a shutout?) provides a blueprint for Manny beating him then you really should try another sport.Marquez clearly showed that a master counterpuncher will give Manny fits.If you honestly believe that Pacquaio can take those few seconds of complacency by Floyd and turn it into a blueprint for certain victory,then Manny needs to sack Roach and get you in his corner.I'll have a twelve month avy bet with you if the fight comes off if you're THAT confident.

 

Now even though I strongly disagree he could pull that off,you have given a far better and well though-out answer to my question.Well done.:good
But I expect nothing less from a poster who I hold in high esteem.

 

Ofcourse everyone has a punchers chance. I think he meant is there anyway Pac could dominate the fight.

 

He doesn't win every round but it would be clear enough, actually think the 2009 Pac could cause him a few problems but still loses

 

Thoroughly agree PB.And that's why the fight has lost it's panache.

 

2009 Pac KO's Void in the 1st round! Current Pac KO's Void in 4!