A Superheavyweight from the 30's who never made it big (Video!)

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  1. mostobviousalt

    mostobviousalt Active Member banned Full Member

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    Why do so many of his boxrec weigh entries have exactly 238 listed.
    Almost makes his weight seem fabricated
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    I agree. Those things Doyle threw at the camera didn't look like punches to me either.

    But he was hitting the bag correct.

    I guess his 'shadow boxing' technique was just for a work out and had nothing to do with practicing his punching ..... and possibly done like that to avoid injury ?
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    238 is exactly 17 stone, so perhaps some of the reports described him as "17 stone".
    It seems correct anyway. The man was around that size.
     
  4. mostobviousalt

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    There have been numerous 6'6/6'7 guys who were rather light, like under 200 pounds. Like Jack Trammell. There's also a recent example of some 6'6 man fighting under 200 pounds but I forgot his name. He looks heavier than 200. But I wouldn't be surprised if he was "only" 220-230 pounds and they added a convenient stone to his weight. He also has 224.5 and 228 on his boxrec weigh in listings. Which makes me further doubt all those exact 17 stone listings.
     
  5. reznick

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    He was throwing light jabs, and keeping his left extended for balance.
     
  6. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    Not bad for a big guy. Nice find Rez! Have fun meeting Lennox too!
     
  7. Slavic Fighter

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    He doesn't even know how to throw a jab, in fact he doesn't know anything about boxing and is slow as hell, even for a heavyweight. If anything, that's another proof how pathetic boxing technique was back then and their athleticism was nowhere near the athleticism of modern elite athletes. GGG would beat the **** out of him
     
  8. HerolGee

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    there were many shws in history but they were rarely able to capitalise until reduction in fight length and fall in boxing standards allowed their reduced lung capacity and thus less forthcoming punching fluency to cope with finely tuned, fitter, smaller athletes.
     
  9. Roger Federer

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    If the CW division was dissolved does anybody think that the smaller fighters could naturally gravitate back towards the top ranks of the HW division?
     
  10. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Thanks Reason! :)
     
  11. janitor

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    They almost did, without it being dissolved:

    Huck was one of Povetkins more formidable opponents, Cunningham was one of Fury’s more formidable opponents.

    Haye held a belt.

    Perhaps the margin, by which the big guys hold onto the division, is a fine one.
     
  12. Mr.DagoWop

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    I don't think that the 1950s were full of small men as much as one usually thinks. Most guys were the same weight as fighters of previous decades. The average height was around 6'1". Its really only Marciano that was a small guy. Everyone else was around 6'1" and 190-200 lbs. Fighters didn't believe in bulking up.
     
  13. Mr.DagoWop

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    Cunningham even dropped Fury. Cruiserweights are just guys with bodies of fighters from previous eras with Heavyweight power. I think they could do fine in the heavyweight division.
     
  14. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True.between the wars you could always count on the blown up talented lt heavys to clean up many a heavy ...
    By the late 50 even the Lt heavy division was thinking out
    The heavy division was becoming as good or better than the other division because the thinking of the ranks of amateur and pros compared to the 20..30..40
    So now the heavys talent pool is as good as the cruisers and light heavys...all poor in depth
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    lol.