A tidbit on SRL...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Nemesis, Sep 22, 2007.


  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was just reading my local newspaper, which had a feature on Paul Smith, who is in the 3rd Contender series and he mentioned that when he went to Leonard's for a BBQ, Leonard mentioned that he got Knocked out in sparring a couple of weeks before his fight with Hagler, thus the reason why he fought on the outside.

    Does anyone know anything about this, or who the opponent was?
     
  2. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Rooster's your man here. :good
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    If he wasn't there, his friends Pepping, Hank or Street were.

    :lol:

    Hey, he was sparring southpaws, what's the odds Rooter claims a TKO win for the mercurial Frank "Le Animarl" Fletcher!
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some guy on another forum (he is a real fanatic of ray leonard) said leonard was knocked out in the sparring session which validates my claim that hagler was very far gone if he couldn't do the same.

    Don't believe John Thomas. I was not there to see it happen-I've never seen Leonard fight in preson. I watched hagler in sparring that was also a couple weeks before the Leonard fight and felt Hagler shouldn't be fighting anymore but did improve somewhat vs. leonard over what i saw him doing in sparring. he looked terrible.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Listen up and listen good :lol:

    You say Hagler struggling in sparring let you know Hagler wasn't in shape to fight Leonard yet Leonard supposedly getting ko'ed in sparring doesn't get him the same concessions

    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  6. SgrRyLeonard

    SgrRyLeonard Active Member Full Member

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    I heard he ALMOST got KO'd in sparring, nearly out on his feet, but was somehow able to hide the fact that he was badly hurt. I don't know who the guy was that he was sparring with though.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's based on a lack of reflexes that Hagler floundered in sparring.

    Leonard was knocked out in his sparring session because he didn't have a chin. That's what I've always said isn't it?
     
  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whew!

    I stand corrected then. I was just going by what someone else said.

    But the question arises, how do you almost get knocked out and what saved him from being ko'd?
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Ask Ali about Shavers

    ;)
     
  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Well how did Leonard survive the biggest bombs in history at 147? How did he survive and thrive Haglers formidable power at 160? Why did KO and all the others rate his chin brilliantly?

    P.S. Mom would kill me if she knew i was dishing out this whupping on some poor defenseless moron.
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To answer your first question, Hearns was was too frail at 145 to knock out anyone except tomato cans.

    Second, Hagler was no longer formidable.

    And KO has always overrated Leonard since the day he won the title. I think it was a mistake putting him in the same class as Robinson just for beating Benitez.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    You must not think much of Hearns' power at 147 then, if he couldn't even floor Leonard the first time and Hagler couldn't even hurt a retired guy who was 13 pounds lighter than him with no chin!
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because hagler was shot. haven't i always said that?
     
  14. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    Hagler was not fighting at his normal weight. That plus age
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Leonard was working the talk shows MONTHS before he fought Hagler and said he would box him, out think him, be more skilled, scientific etc

    I'm certain Leonard didn't conjure up the idea to box two weeks before facing Hagler.

    Leonard didn't look like he was boxing when he would use Haglers head as a pinball - see round 9, 12 etc