A way to sort out the alphabet titles

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by The Genius, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    Please explain again then. Your idea of signing boxers up to exclusive contracts is basically how MMA works.

    The point I'm trying is that why would a fighter sign an exclusive deal? In UFC they are guaranteed minimum earnings, maybe a signing bonus.
     
  2. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The purses would be generated in the usual way.

    If Floyd fights under the WBC then his opponent must also represent the WBC. The fight would be on PPV and Floyd would get his share of the buys.

    All fighters would have to sign an exclusive deal with either the WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF etc. It is up to their management to pick which organisation. In my initial idea promoters could represent fighters from each body.
     
  3. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    I understand you would like the fighters to sign exclusive deals.

    If you're the fighter, why would you sign an exclusive deal? All it can conceivably do is make the most lucrative fights harder to get to. As if the promoters alone weren't enough of a stumbling block.

    Who makes them sign the deals? If it doesn't make economic sense - they simply won't do it. You may as well ask for one governing body which is as ridiculously unlikely to happen but at least makes sense.
     
  4. Gaikokujin

    Gaikokujin 外国人 Full Member

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    I don't think it's quite as far fetched as some on here are suggesting. Pretty sure japanese fighters are only allowed to fight for WBA & WBC titles as the JBC refuses to acknowledge the WBO & IBF.

    Admittedly it's not quite the same as restricting yourself to a single organisation but it shows the idea can (kind of) work in principle
     
  5. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    The BBBofC could insist on it but that won't help in the USA. Also we are seeing with Haye/Chisora what happens if they don't like the rules. They'll just go somewhere else.
     
  6. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why sign a deal? In this hypothetical scenario everyone would have to sign a deal. You could not box unless you signed a deal with a sanctioning body. It would be the law of boxing. Boxing commissions will not licence you if you are not signed to a sanctioning body.

    Yes it will not happen, but it was an idea to help people understand the WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF. It would also make finding opponents more straightforward. Everyone would now who they can and cannot fight. By default the top ten fighters in each division of the sanctioning body would be well-known. So the lucrative fights will still be there.

    Hypothetically everyone in boxing would accept the rules. Yes , one governing body with one world title would be fantastic. But in this idea there would be a ruling body overseeing the sanctioning bodies.

    It was just an idea to organise the sport. If we must have 4 or more world titles, it helps us understanding why.
     
  7. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What's the point in even talking about this. Its NEVER going to change. We know who the true champs are so let's just leave it
     
  8. Klitman

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    Its hard enough getting promoters and tv networks to work together, so to then have different fighters with different sanctioning bodies, you would be strugling to get any fights made
     
  9. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    I regret taking your idea seriously. I mistakenly thought that you were proposing a feasible alternative to the current system. Instead, you have concocted a completely impossible scenario that doesn't address all the obvious problems yet you weren't hampered with real world logistical hurdles.

    IF a world ruling body was fabricated (how this would happen, i don't know), I would want their first rule to be to get rid of all the sanctioning bodies and have one title. I would declare them as frauds and incompetent if they implemented your idea.

    Something that could at least feasibly happen would be if Top Rank and the WBC teamed up, and make all Top Rank fighters fight exclusively for the WBC belts. They would then do all the match making, rankings and put the shows on. They could possibly offer existing big name fighters like PBF 2 fight deals where necessary but by and large they would offer fixed priced contracts for 5 fight deals where fighters would have a guaranteed income and insurance.

    Let's face it, the Arum fighters only fight each other anyway and if successful other promoters would want a share of this new venture or be forced to set up a rival. Eventually you would could end up with a situation like MMA where UFC have enveloped WFA, Pride, WEC, Strikeforce and are becoming the only relevant MMA organisation.

    You could imagine this new WBC entity adding more promoters as shareholders, gobbling up their fighters, other belts unable to compete might hop on board even.

    Next thing you know, you have the best boxers fighting each other, regularly. You would soon lose the importance of that '0'. There are regulation ring sizes, regulation glove weights too.
     
  10. BoxerGaz

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    This. I agree. Or 2 belts in each weight divison.

    instead of having all these **** ones here and there.

    G
     
  11. welsh_dragon83

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    what a **** idea, have you been smocking some crazy ****:rasta
     
  12. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    Great, let's turn the sanctioning bodies into promoters :patsch
     
  13. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Are you thinking of this in comparison to the UFC?
     
  14. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I have come out of ESB retirement just to say that this idea by the TS is without doubt one of the most ridiculous idea's I have ever heard, I hope you are taking some sort of medication because you are clearly a sick man.
     
  15. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The sanctioning bodies will not be the promoters. I never suggested such a thing.

    The promoters will remain the same. Their fighters will be signed to a particular organisation, therefore the opponents must come from the same organisation.